Anfanee

i do see where you are coming from. You like the classics.

ye old case of heart says yes head says no.

Where did old mate portugal go?

as much as i love the 34. It is NOT worth 60k to me.

All new performance cars are flappy paddles mate, got to get used to it. you're ignoring that they still make fantastic cars. The R35 does amazing lap times. The aventador is the first lambo that can actually take a corner without killing you, whilst still being a poster child like all lambos are supposed to be. The BMW M cars bring luxury tried with brilliant performance. Yes they play the exhaust note, but you can turn it off, and they still go like a bat out of hell.

err? R32/3/4<R35 the new M3 is bloody brilliant

only if you sword fight over who gets what.

Oh have not bought yet. On the troll for one.

But hey, this is coming from a guy that is about to spend 20k on an old school mini So don't listen to a word i say hahaha

the 32 is over 25 years old now...

Only reason i say 32 over a 33 atm is the ROI, 32's are going up and up in price. Buy it, keep it for a few years, you may even break even/make moneys. at the end of the day yes it is just a badge. They were great cars... 20 od years ago. They are old now and really starting to show their age.

Honestly 34's price is all for the name. Realistically you can get much better cars. Also for the current market i'd buy a 32 over a 33. But at the end of the day, i could have bought a better car then my gtr. But i didn't because i wanted a gtr. for 60k you could get a 2015 STI... a 2015/16 golf R... as mentioned an evo... We could keep naming them tbh Personally id rather spend the 30k car and put the rest on the house... ROI on anything above the 30k mark for me doesn't make sense. Especially for a weekend/track car.

yeah all 14 months of it

also,

It's gunmetal with Blue put through it. In person it looks more gunmetal, though in pics it looks really blue.

So when you look at those use statistics, the users in rehab didn't increase nearly enough.

So yes drug use among adolescents dropped, but overall there was a massive increase.

So apparently there is little to no statistics before 2001 in portugal. Just did a little more reading, an example ill pull from Wikipedia... And ill highlight point 4, which honestly backs up the points i made earlier about bransons article being hugely misleading. Observations[edit] There is little reliable information about drug use, injecting behaviour or addiction treatment in Portugal before 2001, when general population surveys commenced. Before that, there were the indicators on lifetime prevalence amongst youth, collected as part of the European School Survey Project on Alcohol and Other Drugs (ESPAD), and some other (less reliable) data available through the EMCDDA.[16] Thorough studies on how the various efforts have been implemented were not conducted. Thus, a causal effect between strategy efforts and these developments cannot be firmly established.[11] There are, however, statistical indicators that suggest the following correlations between the drug strategy and the following developments, from July 2001 up to 2007: Increased uptake of treatment.[11] Reduction in new HIV diagnoses amongst drug users by 17%[17] Reduction in drug related deaths, although this reduction has decreased in later years. The number of drug related deaths is now almost on the same level as before the Drug strategy was implemented.[11][17] However, this may be accounted for by improvement in measurement practices, which includes a doubling of toxicological autopsies now being performed, meaning that more drugs related deaths are likely to be recorded.[18] Reported lifetime use of "all illicit drugs" increased from 7.8% to 12%, lifetime use of cannabis increased from 7.6% to 11.7%, cocaine use more than doubled, from 0.9% to 1.9%, ecstasy nearly doubled from 0.7% to 1.3%, and heroin increased from 0.7% to 1.1%[17] It has been proposed that this effect may have been related to the candor of interviewees, who may have been inclined to answer more truthfully due to a reduction in the stigma associated with drug use.[18] However, during the same period, the use of heroin and cannabis also increased in Spain and Italy, where drugs for personal use was decriminalised many years earlier than in Portugal [18][19] while the use of Cannabis and heroin decreased in the rest of Western Europe.[20][21] Drug use among adolescents (13-15 yrs) and "problematic" users declined.[18] Drug-related criminal justice workloads decreased.[18] Decreased street value of most illicit drugs, some significantly.[18]

Also it is worth noting Branson is a fking nut job.

That Branson article is a little skewed... Though i do see what they are trying to say. For example: The Cato paper reports that between 2001 and 2006 in Portugal, rates of lifetime use of any illegal drug among seventh through ninth graders fell from 14.1% to 10.6%. Drug use in older teens also declined. Life time heroin use among 16-18 year olds fell from 2.5% to 1.8%. - Looking at only teen use, ignoring the statistics of other age gaps, and only providing evidence that shows in favor. He also didn't link the paper so people can read it for themselves. Not to mention the drugs are not illegal anymore, so are they stating that it was the drugs that were illegal? Following decriminalization, Portugal has the lowest rate of lifetime marijuana use in people over 15 in the EU: 10%. The most comparable figure in America is in people over 12: 39.8%, Proportionally, more Americans have used cocaine than Portuguese have used marijuana. -Again it is ignoring some statistics. They are just stating Marijuana, ignoring Hard drugs. So Marijuana may drop, but Ice for exaple may have doubled. New HIV infections in drug users fell by 17% between 1999 and 2003. - Again the study went on longer than 2003. What happened after 2003? Also a given due to needles made more available. Death related to heroin and similar drugs were cut by more than half. -A given as it would be made properly, not like the underground stuff is. It would be pure. The number of people on methadone and buprenorphine treatment for drug addiction rose to 14,877 from 6,040, after decriminalization, and the considerable money saved on enforcement allowed for increase funding of drug free treatment as well. -They say this is a good thing? I would like to see the statistic of drug users vs rehab users. For all we know rehab users doubled, but hard drug users tripled. Property theft has dropped dramatically (50% - 80% of all property theft worldwide is caused by drug users). -this is just a statement, no data to back it up The point i'm trying to make is he has not given all of the data to prove a point. He has picked the positives to paint a better light. If someone can find the actual report he is referring to i'll happily read it and report back. But i'm not convinced from that article at all.

Yeah i have not seen another set floating around. Nor have i seen another set of my wheels in this sizing either... lol

Who said sarcasm doesn't work on the interweb hahahahaha

There is a big difference to prescribed medication and making it easily available. Also the majority of Medicinal marijuana isn't even smoked, its made from an oil. on top of that, have you ever seen someone that has been on Marijuana for years and it hasn't messed them up? I know i have not. The point is, everyone that is on heroin started somewhere. Statistically speaking it's Pot, and slips from there. Now i'm completely open to properties of certain drugs being used for health reasons. But to make it completely legal is definitely not the way to go. There are massive impacts it would have on society. Drug driving, turning up to work high (made even worse if you are in a trade and user power tools), people not even looking after their own kids. I know as a manager i have enough to deal with at the moment without having to worry about that kind of stuff (within reason obviously). I had to remove someone when i was at my old work because he turned up high. It's a big, expensive, annoying thing to go through as a workplace.