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Just received all my parts for my new system (C2D 6600@3.2ghz, 2gb 800mhz, Gigabyte S3 board). All working fine then BAM crashes mid game. Restart and screens all corrupted, turns out to be my brand spanking new HIS X1950XT :P

Off to brisbane for an RMA on its 2nd day. The worst part is I have to use a 2mb PCI vid card until I get it back, this means a max res of 1024x768 @ 16bit on my 21" widescreen. Even though its screamingly fast it still feels like a pentium 166.

/rant

i had to RMA a powercolor x850xt pe and aust post lost it good thing i insured it for $810 took me like 3 months of phone calls to get my money though but in that time they released the x1800 and was 2 weeks off of the x1900 so i waited put another 200 in and got a x1900xtx

I'm up for a new notebook. I'm lookin for something with half decent graphics power without being in a ridiculous 17" chassis. I'm looking at this one. What do you think?

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?...eview=Asus+A8Js

(Asus A8JS) - Price is around $2500.

quite simply ATI sucks and the only people that buy ATI is:

A: people that cant afford Nvidia stuff because ATI's suppppposed equivalents are cheaper.

B: It came in their pre-built pc so thast understandable.

c: they want cheap ass sli copy crossfire mode.

less c than the other 2. I say if your gonna want power, and you have bought the case and the power supply unit to manage heat then buy a video card suited to yoursetup. an Nvidia card.

I don't completely hold that view Paul.

I now build PC's with Nvidia cards. :)

I used to use ATI as Nvidia were crap long long ago. They were noisy, hot and very power hungry. Not that power hungry really is an issue. Noise is.

ATI has nice drivers that have updates every month. Their cards do work well, i've used both nvidia and ati apart from the small performance differences depending on who's the performance leader at the time they are both just as good.

Alot like comparing AMD and Intel. They both work just as well, one at any given time is the performance leader.

Currently its Intel, prior it was AMD and on the story goes.

I've used and overclocked AMD's and Intels back in the 486sx25 and AMD's K5. Prior to that it was AMIGA 500,600 and 1200. :)

lol stop the bickeing children we all have good pc's yes the 8800GTX is better than the x1950xtx but the 8800 is newer technology wait till the R600 chip comes out

as Joel said tech all ways leads each other

for many years around the 9700pro days ATi was the Resolution king more FPS @ higher res than nvidia

i bought a 7800GTX after my x850xt pe and wasnt impressed with it and took it back to the it warehouse and got my money back and bought the then king of gfx cards the x1900xtx 512mb only got beaton by the 8800gtx and im not talking SLI cards either there a different ball park

ATi has just reconfigured crossfire to no longer need a mastercard so look out nvidia boys

Hmm i've always found that Nvidia have been better on the driver support compared to ATi.

Espicially with compatibility with new games.

you say that after saying ewww i would never own a ati card ... so you clearly dont know how they perform with new games that statement is unfounded and biased

my mate just bought a Mitac laptop over the Asus better value for money he got a 7600 256mb in it though but im sure there configureable

Edited by Madaz

ATI actually has very very good driver support. In the old days they had poor support, how things have changed.

I wouldn't say Nvidia has 'good' support, far from infact. They take extremely long to fix a serious issue instead wasting time fixing little issues.

You also need to look at what games you play.

Steam based games are always going to be top notch on ATI cards as they work closely with ATI. Nvidia in the past has had small niggly issues with Steam based games, going off the driver release notes.

EA on the other hand work closely with Nvidia and well.. EA being EA they have issues with every and any piece of hardware lol so really its a poor comparison. :)

www.rage3d.com

I'm unsure if they still do these days but a while back there was a bloke from ATI known as the 'Catalyst Maker' he would listen and take on board issues with games when they were released and fix's would show up in the next driver release. This is what impressed myself most with their driver 'support'

Either way.. I have absolutely no problems with ATI or Nvidia. Their cards work just as well. ATI I have found will fix an issue with a game slightly quicker than Nvidia. BUT I primarily play EA games (BF2 etc) so I am better off with a Nvidia card. :)

HOWEVER!!! ATI have just joined forces with AMD so it will be very interesting to see whats in store for us. :glare:

I don't really like Steam. I hate the fact to run an offline game i'll need to go online at least once. So bloody stupid. They are asking people to priate their software with that approach.

I found Half-Life 2 to be a serious letdown. Chronicles of Riddik was a much better game. Easily the best FPS of the year.

And CS-S like i've stated earlier was good about 8 years ago.

It's a bit boring now.

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