Just Had A Pedders $14 Suspension Check (wow!)

[CATKICKER]

Hi Guys!

After putting up with squeaking suspension since I got the car, I decided to find out what the problem is so I thought I would pay $14 and get pedders to tell me

I never intended to have them repair it as they charge like a wounded bull and once I saw the $1700 price tag it made laugh!

I have had a look around the place but have not really found anywhere and hoped someone would be able to point me in the right direction or give some advice as to my options.

I am looking at spending no more than $1000 and would like to lower it at the same time. (R32 GTS-t) I will be buying eveything I need and then either fitting it myself or if I am too lazy, I will get someone (for a few cartons) to fit it for me...

This is the list of what I need.

-Shocks - front, but I will do all (peferably something with above standard performance - but it wont be a race car)

-Lowered springs

-Sway bar bushes

-Upper bushes

-Lower bushes

-Radius bushes

-Bump stops

I have the option of getting some super low king springs on Apexi damper adjustable shocks in good condition for $500 so that may be a good option for that but where do I go for the bushes ect?

Thanks for any help or advice!!

Edited June 27, 2006 by CATKICKER

[DJRIFT]

hi

i went into pedders yesterday with my gtst and asked about lowering it. one of my work mates is partly sponsored by them so they look after him. anyway they offered 45mm lowered springs with 20 to 25% stiffer springs for $130 a pair. all up $260 if you cant multiply. they said they are the best setup for all conditions. plenty of R and D has gone into them. we measured it up and the gards will sit just right with about 25 to 30mm wheel clearance.

thats just my opinion. i have also looked at a set of tein lowered springs from japan. 45mm lower and about 4 to 5Kgf/mm spring rate. they were about $200 but once you add shipping from japan you might as well buy local and if you dont suport it the prices wont come down.

from other research i have done whiteline seem to offer good stuff at reasonable prices. not sure how many bushes they do apart from pineapples.

whiteline can be surced through a few local places like autobarn.

just what i have found hope it helps.

[CATKICKER]

Thanks for that!! I might have to dial in a favour at the barn!

Edited June 27, 2006 by CATKICKER

[DJRIFT]

Also i wouldnt recomend buying seccond hand coilovers as you get what you pay for and if there cheap than there cheap for a reason. and i dont think that they are cheap to rebiuld.

but if you have a drift pig that you only drive on the weekend then i wouldnt worry about seccond hand coilovers but if you drive lots (to work most days) then you are only gonna wear them out.

just sme more useles advice.

[floody]

i went into pedders yesterday with my gtst and asked about lowering it. one of my work mates is partly sponsored by them so they look after him. anyway they offered 45mm lowered springs with 20 to 25% stiffer springs for $130 a pair. all up $260 if you cant multiply. they said they are the best setup for all conditions. plenty of R and D has gone into them. we measured it up and the gards will sit just right with about 25 to 30mm wheel clearance.

Ahahaha...R&D....Pedders....I wouldn't put those terms in the same sentence. I'd maybe use them for bushes and balljoints and so forth, never for actual critical suspension components.

I had a full pedders sportsrider package in my old R31; undersprung, overdamped in initial bump, underdamped for mid stroke and bottoming resistance, too slow in rebound...

Absolutely terrible, car crashed over the top of small bumps, slammed throught the travel on larger ones, couldn't react quickly for undulations in the road (i.e. where the surface dips after a bump it would hang a wheel in the air), turned in nicely enough but then flopped into mid corner roll understeer/scary roll oversteer... In short very very badly put together package.

I would never put their off the shelf dampers and springs anywhere near a car of mine that I wanted to handle.

Bear in mind too that you really won't get any handling advantage out of just lowered off the shelf springs; they are just stiff enough to maintain travel at the lower rideheight comparable to stock and really won't induce any useful improvement.

Coilovers are cheap enough new that its hardly worth buying secondhand, and definitely not worth dropping ~750 or so on non adjustable monroe/pedders/gabriel crap.

Edited June 27, 2006 by floody

[CATKICKER]

thanks guys!

Anywhere you can suggest for me to get the bushes cheap? Happy to go to the mainland for them (postage wouldn't be much!)

[Bunta]

Also i wouldnt recomend buying seccond hand coilovers as you get what you pay for and if there cheap than there cheap for a reason. and i dont think that they are cheap to rebiuld.

but if you have a drift pig that you only drive on the weekend then i wouldnt worry about seccond hand coilovers but if you drive lots (to work most days) then you are only gonna wear them out.

just sme more useles advice.

The reason these particular coil overs are cheap is because I wanted height adjustable suspension as my car is going to be used for alot of trackwork and the Apexi that was installed on my car when I bought it did not offer the range of adjustment I needed...if it was to be a road car only I would have stayed with the current set up...further more I am offering these coil overs cheap to Todd because I have indirectly screwed him around with the proposed sale of this suspension gear and I feel quite bad about it....Please dont make out that all second hand gear is rubbish...especially when you dont know the background

[nizmokid]

well I have second hand Tein coil overs in my skyline for about 3 years now and havn't had a problem with them. for $1200 three years ago they were cheap! thats postage to tassie too!

anyway sometimes second hand coilovers are ok......made a huge difference to the cars set up. :PBJ:

Also i wouldnt recomend buying seccond hand coilovers as you get what you pay for and if there cheap than there cheap for a reason. and i dont think that they are cheap to rebiuld.

but if you have a drift pig that you only drive on the weekend then i wouldnt worry about seccond hand coilovers but if you drive lots (to work most days) then you are only gonna wear them out.

just sme more useles advice.

[DJRIFT]

sorry bunta i did in no way want to steer him away from yours it is just my opinion so i voiced it.

todd did ask if any one could give him advice on what he could get and i was only telling him what i know.

id also ask your self how often you will be atending the track because i know a few people that are like wow i have fully adjustable coilovers but i wouldnt know jack on how to change anything let alone what that would do to it.

anyway i got my pedders springs today and we put the front ones in in about 20mins. its so easy. 3 bolts and away you go. they are cheap and will do the job on my car untill it becomes worth while getting coilovers. its lowered it onto the wheels nicely but i havent realy given them a trial yet. once i do ill post some pics and my findings. the best thing is i still have a firm but comftable ride and i can get over speed humps easy as.

just another option!

[Bunta]

sorry bunta i did in no way want to steer him away from yours it is just my opinion so i voiced it.

todd did ask if any one could give him advice on what he could get and i was only telling him what i know.

id also ask your self how often you will be atending the track because i know a few people that are like wow i have fully adjustable coilovers but i wouldnt know jack on how to change anything let alone what that would do to it.

anyway i got my pedders springs today and we put the front ones in in about 20mins. its so easy. 3 bolts and away you go. they are cheap and will do the job on my car untill it becomes worth while getting coilovers. its lowered it onto the wheels nicely but i havent realy given them a trial yet. once i do ill post some pics and my findings. the best thing is i still have a firm but comftable ride and i can get over speed humps easy as.

just another option!

Thats ok I know you were just giving your opinion, I just wanted to clear up that I am not some dodgy gut trying to flog off crap parts

The car will be on the track most months..my brother and myself have been in motorsport for a while so adjusting isnt a problem

I would never reccomend lowered springs over standard shocks...it gives a comparibly nasty ride and wears the shocks quickly the valving and the springs need to match

[DJRIFT]

hey todd i was reading in the group buys that they are getting 15% off whiteline gear. you may be able to get some cheap bushes.

just a thought

[DJRIFT]

hi todd

ive been riding on my pedders springs now for over a week and im pretty happy with them. even thoe i havent got matched shockies its still a firm but comfy ride and it has lowered it just enough to make it look hot. just needs bigger wheels.

when i come down on the weekend ill take you for a spin so you can see for yourself.