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Im finishing off my Laufiro with rb30det at the moment and now am at the stage where i need to get it certified (im in NZ).

Im going to fail badly due to my crap breaking setup.

I can get a setup from an r32 or r33 skyline reasonably cheap, however while im at it id also like to do a 5 stud conversion.

I know the s14/s15 hubs work but they are selling for around 400NZD a pair. Ive also been told C35 laurel hubs fit.

What have you guys done setup wise?

Thanks

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If you want 5 stud hubs, use s14/15 at the front, and R32/33 at the rear.

Brakes, have to use skyline brakes on the rear due to the handbrake setup.

Best to use skyline or Z32 brakes upfront because they are alloy (as opposed to the S14/15 cast iron).

If I were you I'd be going with R33 brakes. I'm running R33 brakes on my ceffy but still 4 stud, just redrilled the rotors.

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If you want 5 stud hubs, use s14/15 at the front, and R32/33 at the rear.

Brakes, have to use skyline brakes on the rear due to the handbrake setup.

Best to use skyline or Z32 brakes upfront because they are alloy (as opposed to the S14/15 cast iron).

If I were you I'd be going with R33 brakes. I'm running R33 brakes on my ceffy but still 4 stud, just redrilled the rotors.

Bumping an old thread here, but someone is offering me a set of 4 R33 GTS-T brakes/callipers/discs.

Other than redrilling the discs, is there any special effort involved in fitting these or do they just bolt straight on.

Does the fact that I have an AWD Cefiro make a difference? Would it also be wise to get an R33 master cylinder too?

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i ended up going r32gtst all round. they bolt straight up with no modifications required at all bar the brake lines. Inside the brake line there is an olive that i pulled out. With this pulled out you can then screw in the banjo bolt with no problems.

just redrill rotors and your in business

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Bumping an old thread here, but someone is offering me a set of 4 R33 GTS-T brakes/callipers/discs.

Other than redrilling the discs, is there any special effort involved in fitting these or do they just bolt straight on.

Does the fact that I have an AWD Cefiro make a difference? Would it also be wise to get an R33 master cylinder too?

I would quicker be looking at what R32-GTS4 owners did for big brakes rather than "regular" Cefiro owners. Thanks to having the double-wishbone setup it might be as simple of swapping the hubs/knuckle straight from a R33 GTS-T.

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I would quicker be looking at what R32-GTS4 owners did for big brakes rather than "regular" Cefiro owners. Thanks to having the double-wishbone setup it might be as simple of swapping the hubs/knuckle straight from a R33 GTS-T.

Well this guy is breaking his R33 having crashed it, I don't want to go to 5-stud though as I have a nice set of 16" Momo Sport alloys so was planning on getting the discs drilled.

Swapping the hubs I understand but what the hell is a knuckle? Am I likely to be able to bolt the R33 callipers onto my existing setup? (I don't even have the car yet, it's still on a boat, so it's hard to check stuff) or is there more to it than that?

I'm going to pick up the brakes on Tuesday, and have also asked for the master cylinder, is there anything else I should ask him to pull off the car for me?

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Well this guy is breaking his R33 having crashed it, I don't want to go to 5-stud though as I have a nice set of 16" Momo Sport alloys so was planning on getting the discs drilled.

Swapping the hubs I understand but what the hell is a knuckle? Am I likely to be able to bolt the R33 callipers onto my existing setup? (I don't even have the car yet, it's still on a boat, so it's hard to check stuff) or is there more to it than that?

I'm going to pick up the brakes on Tuesday, and have also asked for the master cylinder, is there anything else I should ask him to pull off the car for me?

Knuckle, the part that extends from the hub where the struts, tie rod and LCA bolt through (it comes with the hub but depending on where you're from or what cars you've worked on before it is sometimes described separate).

In your case, you should have the double wishbone setups that are native to Skylines so you'll have the upper and lower control arms as well as the tie-rod.

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Courtesy Drift Works.

Back to the topic at hand. I'm not too familiar with the GTS4 and I would have loved to own a AWD A31 but as I said earlier look at what GTS4 owners use (they're the exact same thing as AWD A31's) when they do the GTR conversion. The R32 GTR conversion will definitely bolt up but they're a bit expensive. The R33GTS-T calipers/rotors are the exact same as the BNR32 calipers/rotors however I'm not 100% sure if the hubs are the same.

I for one will rather purchase new crappy wheels with my 5 stud brakes than use re-drilled rotors on my nice looking wheels but that just me. Can't help think that re-drilling is shoddy.

Goodluck with your build.

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BNR32 == R32 GTR? or GTS4? I'm pretty sure the N means AWD in Nissan chassis codes, but that's about it.

Thanks for the info though. I'm going in pretty much blind here since Ceffys are so rare in the UK and AWD ones are rare everywhere since everyone wants driftable ones. It doesn't help that this is my first Nissan, having previously owned a Subaru Legacy B4 where the front brakes and discs from a WRX just bolted straight on.

I do eventually plan on going 5 stud but that's not until a year or so down the line, right now I just want a reasonable brake upgrade since the Ceffy is supposed to use the same S13 brakes that S13 owners claim are pathetic on their cars, so must really be dreadful on a heavier Cefiro.

Edit: I might pop down to see the guy who looks after my GFs S13, since all he does is SX's, Silvias and Skylines and ask him to give me a shopping list. If the LNA31 Ceffy really is identical to the R32 GTS4 (are they 4 stud too?) then he should be able to answer.

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Well I popped down to see the guy who is actually going to be fitting the thing, told him the LNA31 is the same as an R32 GTS4 and he reckons it'll be just fine (and then convinced me to buy a set of braided hoses designed for doing this conversion ;) )

Drilling the brake discs shouldn't be a problem either, he's done that many on S13s he has a rig built up for doing it properly.

Now I just have to hope the boat with my car on it hasn't sunk or whatever

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