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locASH

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GTRgeoff Grand Master

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For compliance I used, if I can remember, Raj and some other company. No the brain isn't so good now. It's been a few years.

Getting owned by the missus is not so bad, mine likes to give it a bit occassionally :(

The Blueys drama is weight but the AWD helps out on the standing start.

Deano's posted site has a number of errors, quoting the auto weight for the 'line (33) when the manual is 1360kg but the manual time 0-100, as a stock auto won't do that. Th bluey is really fat and down a lot on power so that accounts for the higher speed deficit. I would suggest that on Oz fuel that would be accurate for 0-100 for the line, but probably G-Teched which tends to the low side of innaccurate. I now hover around 5 flat but the suspension is all for track, and dry at that. Been flogged merciless by an almost stock 33 in the wet at sandown in the corners but smoked him on the straights. In the dry would be different with the short slip diff and aggressive suspension. What it has taught me is that not all sprints are dry, so I need to have a more moderate setup that i can modify for different conditions.

Deano, thanks for posting that site link. By wits I mean the somewhat older term as referred to in this dictionary http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=wit

Don't take it the wrong way. I have a fair education and a lot of experience as a mechanic and with imports, but the engineer in me gets a little peaked when i see unsubstantiated figures peddled without support. I had to know these things automatically so when asked by customers I was able to answer so i always refer to the original factory specs.

locASH, sorry about the hijack, but you should be starting to get an opinion of the bluey by now and all I can recommend is get one, just a manual if possible.

deano_33 Enthusiast

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Ha ha, on a crazy tangent - isn't the internet awesome for this sort of stuff. So much information but it's so hard to sort through the crap to find decent info - I know I have trouble sometimes, I can't believe I turned into one of those sprouting inaccurate information. Your'e right skylinegeoff - I was just being a bit defensive.

deano_33 Enthusiast

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Ha ha, on a crazy tangent - isn't the internet awesome for this sort of stuff. So much information but it's so hard to sort through the crap to find decent info - I know I have trouble sometimes, I can't believe I turned into one of those sprouting inaccurate information. Your'e right skylinegeoff - I was just being a bit defensive.

Yeah I wouldn't treat that site like it's the bible either - obviously I was misled by it.

DaiOni Experienced

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"Th bluey is really fat and down a lot on power so that accounts for the higher speed deficit"

The figure I've seen quoted is 1380kg - that's a HPI quote so it could well be wrong (though they are quite small cars, really). They put the bluebird at about .10 slower over 400m, and .001 over 0-100 - compared to an r33 (they are manual figures)

GTRgeoff Grand Master

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No try 1480kg @ 155kW = 9.55kW/kg

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1360kg @ 187kW = 7.27kW/kg which means rolling response will suffer. It has an advantage in the AWD which is lost to the lower power and higher weight. Even if it was 1360 it still has a large power disadvantage.

Not everyone really gives a rats about the drag time or 0-100 tho. The bluey will be a great allrounder with a great confidence building AWD system that will terrorise GTST's in the wet. Fantastic everyday car. I will guarantee that it will stink on the track untill modified a little cos of the doughy suspension, but not everyone wants to come and play there either.

Jay95R33 Grand Master

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No try 1480kg @ 155kW = 9.55kW/kg

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1360kg @ 187kW = 7.27kW/kg

Isn't that supposed to be 9.55kg/Kw and 7.27kg/Kw ?? :(

Interesting read this thread seems I almost bought one when before I bought the R33.

I also thought the Bluebirds were mainly FWD until there was slip, then the backs kicked in, it's just what I was told for the car dealers so it could be a load of :bs!:

Probably the only two things that stopped me from buying one was the FWD thing, plus I wanted a manual, and manuals are sooooo hard to find :(

Very nice cars though, and could be pretty damn fast with a few mods.

J

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