Nomi Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 I've a 1990 Cefiro GTS-R. I've been planning since a very very long time to pop in the engine either the VQ35 or VQ37 engine, gearbox and ecu. Money is not an issue...I can just save up Here in dubai, turbo isnt really allowed & I wanna drive my baby anywhere and everywhere without fuss. This isnt dilly dally. I'm very serious about doing this swap 1. Will it fit easily OR if it doesnt what modifications do I need to do? Anything else to be taken care of? 2. What engine mounts will I need to put in? 3. Any site on which I could get instructions to pop it in. 5. Would also need an example of this (with pics) done. Have tried all over but just can't get any info on this. I don't want alternatives but I would like advice. Ahhh! I want this! Ahhhhh! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/363459-vq35vq37-into-cefiro-a31-ive-a-1990-cefiro-gts-r-ive-been-planning-since-a-very-very-long-time-to-pop-in-the-engine-either-the-vq35-or-vq37-engi/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0o Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 thats no rwd engine lol, vq's are 4wd or fwd if i'm not wrong or? why are turbocars not allowed? 1. won't be easy lol, you'll need alot of modififactions for that 2. do custom mounts, don't think you can buy them somewhere 3. and 5. interesting project you want, i've searched but didn't find anything 4. can't find your"4th point" a good friend of me took a half year to put a lancer fwd engine in his old rwd truck(mitsubishi L200), it worked but drove like shit... would say put a jz or rb in there lol its much more easy and will work good if you do it right...if you want something big and no turbo go 1uz sounds awesome too, everything else is just insane buddy Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/363459-vq35vq37-into-cefiro-a31-ive-a-1990-cefiro-gts-r-ive-been-planning-since-a-very-very-long-time-to-pop-in-the-engine-either-the-vq35-or-vq37-engi/#findComment-5800170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic_A31 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 By no means an easy conversion. VQ DOES come in RWD but I can't think of what cars do. Cedric/Cima/Gloria come with it but they're all turbo. You'll need. Modify crossmember. Modify gearbox crossmember and mounts. Custom Exhaust (specifically mid section, but the whole lot might need doing). Custom intake pipework. Modify power steering lines Modify Air Conditioning lines. Wiring The list goes on and on. There's no straight instructions for it. It has been done but I struggled to find informaiton on it. www.vq30det.com Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/363459-vq35vq37-into-cefiro-a31-ive-a-1990-cefiro-gts-r-ive-been-planning-since-a-very-very-long-time-to-pop-in-the-engine-either-the-vq35-or-vq37-engi/#findComment-5800193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomi Posted May 8, 2011 Author Share Posted May 8, 2011 Come on people! Think! VQ35 COMES IN A NISSAN 350Z. Its rear wheel drive & its manual. I'm getting everything from a 350z half cut. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/363459-vq35vq37-into-cefiro-a31-ive-a-1990-cefiro-gts-r-ive-been-planning-since-a-very-very-long-time-to-pop-in-the-engine-either-the-vq35-or-vq37-engi/#findComment-5800642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic_A31 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Sorry I was only thinking of the cool cars. Engine box and loom from the halfcut, that's about it. Crossmembers are different, you're still up for ALOT of fab work dude. Hit up the forum I linked. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/363459-vq35vq37-into-cefiro-a31-ive-a-1990-cefiro-gts-r-ive-been-planning-since-a-very-very-long-time-to-pop-in-the-engine-either-the-vq35-or-vq37-engi/#findComment-5800914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Eps Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 nic i dont think you understand how saudis and the UAE guys operate. they dont care for "difficulty"... if they want something. they will build it. i have seen an Evo 9 with an LS7 RWD convert from over there if a retard can build that - surely this isn't a stretch! and 350Z are awesome are you bonkers? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/363459-vq35vq37-into-cefiro-a31-ive-a-1990-cefiro-gts-r-ive-been-planning-since-a-very-very-long-time-to-pop-in-the-engine-either-the-vq35-or-vq37-engi/#findComment-5804400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeffyNSW Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I have a V35 with the VQ35DE, rear wheel drive, the wifes car. The biggest issue you will have will be the electronics, these cars have a CAN communictation system which connects between all the different modules, engine control module, body control module, instrument cluster, ABS, traction control. At least it is a manual! Can you go for a all alloy Nissan V8 with less technology? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/363459-vq35vq37-into-cefiro-a31-ive-a-1990-cefiro-gts-r-ive-been-planning-since-a-very-very-long-time-to-pop-in-the-engine-either-the-vq35-or-vq37-engi/#findComment-5804879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1400r Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 what's a "Cefiro GTS-R" some R31 Hybrid Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/363459-vq35vq37-into-cefiro-a31-ive-a-1990-cefiro-gts-r-ive-been-planning-since-a-very-very-long-time-to-pop-in-the-engine-either-the-vq35-or-vq37-engi/#findComment-5809844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomi Posted May 13, 2011 Author Share Posted May 13, 2011 @ Nic : Thanks man. I kind of already suspected that electrical work would be a kickass pain in the ass so thats all right. Fab work I did not think about. Thanks man. @ Mr. Eps : First of all, did you get your nickname from the numb3rs show? I'm not an arab from Saudi or UAE. I'm a pakistani guy but I live in Dubai. I just like the VQ35 a lot so I'm getting it. Interesting fact on the Evo though. Man! That would be sum killer ride! @ CeffyNSW : Yes budd. Electrics would be a helluva problem. But I'm connecting separate metres rather than the cluster originally installed plus I don't really want traction control. Would be hell expensive. Gonna ask an electrician to get all that done. Lets see what happens. & for God's sake man, a V8? seriously? I'm better off with something that awesome and reliable. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/363459-vq35vq37-into-cefiro-a31-ive-a-1990-cefiro-gts-r-ive-been-planning-since-a-very-very-long-time-to-pop-in-the-engine-either-the-vq35-or-vq37-engi/#findComment-5811527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Eps Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Haha never said you were I'm just saying the Saudis do some insane stuff.. Must be the air over there.. Some one built a 980hp atw AWD z30 soarer =\ And no.. What's the numbers reference man?? Like what's mr eps in numbers show?? My name I've had since I first became a member here in 2004.. Or 03 I forget which.. But basically it's just "sperm" spelled backwards. Haha People think my real surname is "eps" now. It's kinda annoying to explain everyday =\ anyway.. Good lick with this you seem to know your stuff.. But honestly if you want something a bit easier??? I know a guy selling a BRAND NEW CRATE ENGINE vvti 1jz gte Brand we turbo. Lines. Hoses. Head bottom end.. Complete engine brand new ne'er used Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/363459-vq35vq37-into-cefiro-a31-ive-a-1990-cefiro-gts-r-ive-been-planning-since-a-very-very-long-time-to-pop-in-the-engine-either-the-vq35-or-vq37-engi/#findComment-5818187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daleo Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Nomi, check out this link; http://motamota.r31skylineclub.com/index.php?topic=135040.0 It's a big read, but this fella has a VQ35, 6 speed in his R31 Skyline, which is as close to your engine bay as you're going to find. There's heaps of detail in the thread, and he has adderessed all the issues you might come across. Good luck with the conversion. Cheers, Dale Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/363459-vq35vq37-into-cefiro-a31-ive-a-1990-cefiro-gts-r-ive-been-planning-since-a-very-very-long-time-to-pop-in-the-engine-either-the-vq35-or-vq37-engi/#findComment-5818195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomi Posted May 23, 2011 Author Share Posted May 23, 2011 @ Mr Eps: I know I could get a 1jz in quite easily. I just WANT to pop in a VQ35. That's all. Plus 1jz in Dubai won't pass unless you know soime people. & I've no idea how the ac will be in that. @ Daleo: Thanks mate. Was quite happy to read ur post right up to the moment when I tried to open that page which wouldn't until I registered on it so I tried to do that and now it says that I can't register until and unless I've an ISP account Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/363459-vq35vq37-into-cefiro-a31-ive-a-1990-cefiro-gts-r-ive-been-planning-since-a-very-very-long-time-to-pop-in-the-engine-either-the-vq35-or-vq37-engi/#findComment-5829224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daleo Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 @ Mr Eps: I know I could get a 1jz in quite easily. I just WANT to pop in a VQ35. That's all. Plus 1jz in Dubai won't pass unless you know soime people. & I've no idea how the ac will be in that. @ Daleo: Thanks mate. Was quite happy to read ur post right up to the moment when I tried to open that page which wouldn't until I registered on it so I tried to do that and now it says that I can't register until and unless I've an ISP account Ah yeah, that makes sense; it's in the members section of the forum. Maybe get in touch with the site admins on the forum? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/363459-vq35vq37-into-cefiro-a31-ive-a-1990-cefiro-gts-r-ive-been-planning-since-a-very-very-long-time-to-pop-in-the-engine-either-the-vq35-or-vq37-engi/#findComment-5829242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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