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I wasn't trying to be patronising Jim; if you think that i was, than "you are welcomed"

Let us know how much quicker your turbo spools up .  :jester:

Nah it's cool, I was just being silly, hence the smilie.

It does spool up slightly quicker. I reported something in the Roil thread which was very similar to what everyone was getting with Roil.

No, it's far from necessary. I agree, good quality oils are all you need. But if this product gets a bit of extra power by way of reducing friction, it should be ok to use unless it's doing damage to your engine by turning into hydrochloric acid or the like. It also should in theory also slightly reduce the wear and extend your engine life rather than shorten it. The guy I got my Oil Extreme from has been using and selling it for over 5 years. I think that if it was ruining engines he would have been taken to court over it by now, or something. And he wouldn't still be using it himself or selling it if it was creating headaches for people (himself included).

Jimx,

you will probably find the Lucas and Morey (re-badged Lucas) additives are very similar to oil extreeme also, it's cheaper btw.

I'm using the Lucas oil additive in the GTR and V8 volvo presently. In the GTR I have less than their suggested amount however only about 400ml.

Krawler if you still think that Roil (or oil extreme for that matter) still does nothing, then y have 5 people, independently reported major benifits once adding roil to their cars, yet with nothing to gain out of it?

Fun? Something to do? Time to fill in? Got me buggered?

Have you even bothered to read the full reports written by those who have actually tried roil, or does the world only revolve around your experiences? FFS, i dare you to try roil, then pay it out all you like... If it does nothing, then make a post up paying it out, use every scrap of your intelligence to create a post that i'll never have a comeback for... then feel free to copy it to every single forum on the internet, so that i have no job, no life, and you to thank... now is that a risk i would take if it did nothing...

Now that would be more productive than coming up with pidly little answers, trying to agure with those that have acutally tried two additives to which we both value very highly...

Or you could personally go and arugre with those professions using it... that may even make more sense as they would have no idea about lubrication... Your a brissie boy, start with the holden performance driving centre, then duck down the road and pay out the WRX Experience, drive to the northside, and give a mouthfull to smith and atholwood, the 2000 national drag champs, then board a plane to melbourne, and pay out the australian land speed record holder, and while your down there pay out the other v8 supercar team using it, cause you already would've paid out one when you were at the HPDC, so you'd have experience... And with all that under your belt, come back on and construct a post that just might make us think twice about wot we're saying...

jetpilot1986,

You need to settle down and stop pushing your product through, in the aggressive manner you have been.

I don't give a hoot about what the 5 people from this board have to say about it, as well as the race teams that seem to advertise your product. Let's all build our engines once a month.

How hard is it for roil, or for any other oil additive manufacturer, to have two identical test vehicles; one with the additive and one without. Having regular oil analyses done on both vehicles, by an independent third party, would provide all the sceptics with some factual data. If you think that might not be conclusive enough, surely there is another way to prove the worthiness of these additives, apart from collecting testimonials from whoever is willing to give. Or some sort of mock up test machine that doesn't resemble the working environment of a combustion engine.

If you think that, a company (amway at that) with the budget and resources of 1% of the large oil companies, can come up with the revolutionary product with some secret ingredient, good for you...!

If you also believe that, selling products similar to yours only through infommercials and part-time distributors, adds to their inclusiveness; again good for you...!

Just don't expect every other person to follow suit.

[sarcasm]If it is the product you say it is and proven, than it will take over the market in the next 6 months and you will reap all the benefits of being one of the exclusive distributors.[/sarcasm]

OMOMATIC > Amway washing powder.

Sorry...

How hard is it for roil, or for any other oil additive manufacturer, to have two identical test vehicles; one with the additive and one without. Having regular oil analyses done on both vehicles, by an independent third party, would provide all the sceptics with some factual data. If you think that might not be conclusive enough, surely there is another way to prove the worthiness of these additives, apart from collecting testimonials from whoever is willing to give. Or some sort of mock up test machine that doesn't resemble the working environment of a combustion engine.

Try these...

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/photopost...9Page_7-med.jpg

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/photopost...9Page_8-med.jpg

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/photopost...9Page_9-med.jpg

It was an independent trial done on three fiat bulldozers... It was conducted intirely independent of neways by a company called 'Wear Check' with the help of BeInformed....

BTW.. sorry.. i know i tend to get worked up over this... its just frustrating when people aren't willing to except something different... your entitled to an opinion, and i appreciate any feedback, be it good or bad, however i'm yet to have one person who has tried it return anything other than positive results, and so when people who havn't even tired it will stare in the face of others who have (not only myself), and protest that it does nothing, it really does get to me...

How hard is it for roil, or for any other oil additive manufacturer, to have two identical test vehicles; one with the additive and one without. Having regular oil analyses done on both vehicles, by an independent third party, would provide all the sceptics with some factual data. If you think that might not be conclusive enough, surely there is another way to prove the worthiness of these additives, apart from collecting testimonials from whoever is willing to give. Or some sort of mock up test machine that doesn't resemble the working environment of a combustion engine.

Amen to that.

Another test that would be worth doing is a test based on long term use of the product and its effect on the various metal components it comes into contact with through out the engine. Specifically looking at clogging of oil galleries, acid attack, etc. Thats something that cant be tested on all these race cars because they are being rebuilt so frequently, or doing very low kays.

And the full test would obviously involve the testers being unaware which has the additive.

It was an independent trial done on three fiat bulldozers... It was conducted intirely independent of neways by a company called 'Wear Check' with the help of BeInformed....

Funny you should mention that. The mechanic that sells Oil Extreme says he sells most of it to a local council (I think, some sort of government agency anyway) who use it on their bulldozers. Not for the extra power, but for the extra friction protection. They've been using it for years, so I presume it's doing something good.

yeah... they're not so different after all... its just a pitty no one want to accept them... roil and oil extreme is out there and being used widely, and whether or not ppl want to beleive it, they work, and their missing out...

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