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hahaha id buy one for the gf if i was rich enuff

The Nissan Sport Concept offers the look and feel of a grand touring car, yet is conceived as an affordable, attainable vehicle for buyers entering the new car marketplace for the first time.

yeah right?!?!

reckon if/when it comes out it will be closer to the 350z price range.

Or maybe a really dulled down version to be a pulsar competitor???

Who knows what the marketing ppl at 'nissan australia' will decided this this time.

Affordable... yeah well see.

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yeah right?!?!  

reckon if/when it comes out it will be closer to the 350z price range.

Or maybe a really dulled down version to be a pulsar competitor???

Who knows what the marketing ppl at 'nissan australia' will decided this this time.

The car is supposed to slot beneath the Z33 in Nissan's product lineup. In other words, a Silvia or Pulsar SSS / GTiR replacement. Nissan Japan won't price it up against the Z. Marketing two very different sports cars in the same price bracket would be a potential suicide.

Given its design (small sports coupe) I'd guess that they'd line the car up against the Integra Type-whatever, Astra SRi Turbo, Megane 225, etc. If its any more than around AUD$45K I don't think people will buy it.

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I'm still trying to figure out how it's part of the 'Nismo family'???

Sorry, just quoting the 'nismo' logo's on the seat belts, that’s all.

How it's directly related to the 'nismo familiy'... not too sure about that either.

And just noticed that it doesnt mention nismo anywhere in the text.

maybe i should change my first post to 'nissan family'.... will do :innocent:

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The car is supposed to slot beneath the Z33 in Nissan's product lineup. In other words, a Silvia or Pulsar SSS / GTiR replacement. Nissan Japan won't price it up against the Z. Marketing two very different sports cars in the same price bracket would be a potential suicide.

Given its design (small sports coupe) I'd guess that they'd line the car up against the Integra Type-whatever, Astra SRi Turbo, Megane 225, etc. If its any more than around AUD$45K I don't think people will buy it.

Sound about right. If it were brought in now, competing with those cars or even the Celica / Hyundai???

Guess it all depends of what version of this car they bring out.. if/when it come to oz.

In terms of marketing two very different sports cars in the same price range potentially being suicide.... tend to agree with you but then again in recent history Honda tried to state the Integra and prelude were totally different cars with totally different target markets.... i know that they are different cars but someone looking at purchasing an Integra must have considered a prelude at some stage as well as they were in a similar price range…. if ya know what i mean. i know that the prelude is now redundant but they seam to do ok up until then???

Not saying that this is a good idea marketing strategy that Nissan should employ, just that that it has been done at least once b4 before with some degree of success.

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Honda tried to state the Integra and prelude were totally different cars with totally different target markets.... i know that they are different cars but someone looking at purchasing an Integra must have considered a prelude at some stage as well as they were in a similar price range…. if ya know what i mean. i know that the prelude is now redundant but they seam to do ok up until then???

Businesses don't stop doing stuff that's profitable.

If having both the Prelude and Integra was "OK" financially, we'd still have a Prelude.

Honda realised the two cars, although different in spirit, were too close in the only way that matters to the buyer (sports car in a certain price bracket) and were canibalising sales from each other. In the end it was the Teggy that won when the two vehicles were "consolidated".

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Businesses don't stop doing stuff that's profitable.

If having both the Prelude and Integra was "OK" financially, we'd still have a Prelude.

Honda realised the two cars, although different in spirit, were too close in the only way that matters to the buyer (sports car in a certain price bracket) and were canibalising sales from each other. In the end it was the Teggy that won when the two vehicles were "consolidated".

Tottaly agree... i'm sure in most cases car companies will keep making a certain type of car as long as the dolars stacked up.

As i was suggesting earlier, i'm not saying that this is a good marketing strategy

just that that it has been done at least once b4 before with some degree of success. i.e they have both been sold by honda since the mid 80's with the intergra 'sx' and the prelude 'si.

re: the teggy and prelude, imo honda made the right choice to keep the teg... think its got more of a racing history than the prelude. Have no idea how many competitons the integra has one or entered.

Although i think there is a prelude type R as well available in japan, the teggy to me still more of a true race car.

Having said all of that, i still havnt figured figures out why nissan stopped making the s15... something about meeting low emisions... ???

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My understanding is that the SR couldn't be made emissions compliant, so they canned it. Hence why there's also no Pulsar SSS replacement.

That said, I'd like to know what the Japanese X-Trail is doing with an SR20VET. Maybe 4WDs are also excempt from Japanese emissions laws.

I also believe this is the same fate of the RB. They are 15+ year old engines, after all. Unlike the Silvia, though, Nissan had a replacement 6 cylinder that was designed well and made a good base for tuning so sporting Skylines still exist.

Why they can't borrow the lovely engine that powers the RenaultSport Clio and put that in a Pulsar is beyond me. Considering a Clio costs $34K, if you were to get a Pulsar and not install the fruit that the Renault's got (Xenons, rain sensitive wipers, leather / alcantara interior) you could get it in to the $30K bracket and build something that would shit all over the Ford Focus ST170, Mazda3 SP23 and Subaru Impreza RS. It would even give the Corolla Sportivo a run for its money.

Or if you want to step up into the premium hot hatch market, use the SR20VET from the X-Trail. Nissan could try pricing it in the $40K mark and put it against the Megane 225, Astra SRi Turbo, and Integra Type-S. 200kW would rate it well above its competitors in power output. If it won't pass emissions, borrow the Megane's motor and spend more time getting the car to handle.

Too bad I can't think of a longtitudinal engine that could be used in a new Silvia though.

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The Prelude was the bigger, softer coupe while not being fitted out as a GT.

While the Integra was something that competed with the FTO and Silvia as a "boy racer" machine, the Prelude was more a Celica competitor. Something for someone who wanted all the looks (and inconvenient access / people carrying) of a sports coupe, without the hassle of the sports underpinnings and their subsequently high strung and bad-riding nature.

Too bad that the two door Camry practically owns the lucrative "sports cars for people who don't give a shit" market. That car has sunk a lot of affordable coupes. Remember the MX6 and Ford Probe / Cougar? They all tried and died. I'm surprised the Hyundai Coupe / Tiburon has lasted this long.

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