Nurburgring Nordschleife Records

[Moanie]

i drove it in a hire car!!!! a merc c200 sedan! lol!!! was soo dodgy!!! major body roll.. but the track itself.. unbelieveable!!! I'd have given anything to have had my sky there

also met an english guy with a r33 gtr... he ships it over from england every now and then.. sooo jealous!!!

some dodgy pics are here if anyone is interested:

http://spaces.msn.com/mooniepie/photos/

the photo album is called 'Nurburgring'

[scathing]

BNR32 GTR was the first production road car to lap under 8 minutes mate.

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That wasn't in production trim though, if I remember correctly. I believe the GT-R was running non-standard boost and full slicks when it posted that 7:59.

The Porsche 911 was the first car to break 8 minutes in a setup that you could pick up just off the showroom floor and drive to the Nordschleife.

[scathing]

I think a Nurburgring time is a good way to market a sports car. Because its such a long lap with a diverse mix of corners, and the road isn't in the best of conditions, assuming you've got drivers of a similar calibre it comes down to how easy the car is to drive.

Its one of those places where you need a semi-sports suspension and a good mid to top end power delivery. To be quick at the 'ring you should have to build a good all-rounder.

The suspension has to be stiffer than your average econobox to get good body control, but it can't be racecar stiff or it'll skip everywhere. There are some corners so tight that your revs will drop, or blind so you can't just throw the car in at the limit, and so you need something with a usable midrange as well as a strong top-end.

That sounds like the kind of setup your amateur / clubsport racer in their only car is going to want. Its not something tuned to the ragged edge that only a pro is going to be able to use, but at the same time its still going to be a better car than what your mum uses to get the groceries.

And because the Nurburgring is so long, its hard to just pull off a blinder. Its a lot easier fluke the 10 corners of Wakefield Park properly than it would be to string the 50+ corners of the 'ring together without making a mistake.

Since the corners increase and decrease radius, change camber, up and down hill, with a mixture of corner entry speeds, etc...its a much better way of determining a car that will corner well in all conditions, and make it easy on the driver. An easier car won't be as hard to drive, so you won't tire out and have lapses of concentration as much...nor will it punish you if you do make a mistake.

A single lap dash of most race tracks means very little. If you want to separate a well sorted quick car from a slow one, you'd have to do a full 10-15 minute session to see if the driver is still consistent at the end of it. See if the drive can still place the car exactly where they want on the racetrack, how much effort they had to expend to drive the car at their level, or if the car's run out of brakes or is overheating. On the 'ring, one lap would be enough. Maybe 2 if you want to torture test it.

[RB240Dav]

eh, edited, what he said (only arrow I could find)

Edited February 10, 2006 by RB240Dav

[scathing]

I don't doubt that he could do an 8:00 lap in a Daewoo Matiz.  If I were a woman, I'd sure like to be his girlfriend...

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I'd like Sabine Schmidt or Vicki Butler-Henderson to be my girlfriend.

Especially Vicki - love that accent, and her love of going sideways.....in a car.

[GTRsean]

stock gtr, sports med tyres no tcs, manual ran an 8:29

real life when the r32 first came out the driver got 8:22

[JapanDyno.com]

The track is realy crazy and its realy fun...

but realy difficult...saw alot of the car from the list flying over the track

i love to drive there.... best think is japanese cars metting every year ...hope i can be there 2007

[75coupe]

A friend and myself have been long time grand turismo players and have had almost every car in the game around Nur... And we get very consistant times, so yeah the track can be learnt... very realistic times too...

I know its just a game but I probably won't ever get there so the game will have to do I guess...

[nismoman]

Driving the Nurburgring is on my 'life to do list'.

I'm going to europe for a holiday this time next year, and I will definitely be doing at least a lap of the famous circuit - Hire car here I come!!!!

Any tips for me? Where to hire car? How to get there? Accommodation?

[Moanie]

hahahaha.. we hired a car from AVIS i think it was... a merc c200! lol! it did the job! didn't handle the best, but i still drop the nurburgring! was exhilirating!!!

there is also something called the BMW ring Taxi.. look it up.. they take you for zippy laps around there! we missed out, cause we were there in autumn/winter, and they close up shop