Robocop2310

All fair points, but if you could buy a stock car that looks and performs extraordinarily great versus buying a car less impressive and “modifying it up” which would you choose? Then there’s the view of would you prefer by choice to keep a car stock if you drive it once in a while to the shops and don’t race or track the car requiring huge power? I think it’s quite evident that most normal people don’t modify their cars anymore and this craft is left more to true enthusiasts?

Totally agree. The difference between a GTS-T & GTR for all models is massive.

Too similar? Are you kidding me??

They’re releasing their videos with much less frequencies.

Damn, you're a spirited oldie for sure and I thought I was aged. Rock on respect!

I've never heard this expression? Honest. lol

Fine...let the games begin once again! If you don't like it at all then sell it. FFS

I think after all the discussions, it's probably safe to say that most people do not "hate" the R33 GTR and many actually adore it most like myself included. So this thread has been proven to be false. It all comes down to preference but this thread has been busted.

After reading everyone's valid comments, I think the general consensus is that many people cannot be bothered to modified their cars due to the time and cost coupled with attracting too much unwanted attention instead opting to simply buy a stock decently fast car to begin with. I agree totally. I think as I'm getting old (mid 30's), I just don't see myself hooning around in a loud and heavily modified car to attract all the attention and every man and his dog wanting to drag me at the lights. I am thinking of selling my R34 GTR and getting something I've always wanted like an Audi R8 and call it a day for now. In conclusion, I think the car-modding scene certainly has slowed down. Although it's not totally dead, I think it is in fact dying a slow death just like how we just to put subwoofers in our cars with tricked out audio systems and DVD screens. Gone are the days of RICE(ish) modifications and in your face modifications.

Thanks for everyone's comments guys...but I think my view is alike Junkie's.

Hey guys, I have been noticing that the modding scene is somewhat slowing with a lot of people now wanting to keep their cars stock for resell and preservation value then there's the issue getting defected by cops all the time for modifications and also the fact that the majority of us do not take our cars to the track or drag strip so cruising around town at 60km/h or 100km/hr doesn't really make having a 200HP or 1000HP much of a difference. I, one, own a modified R33 GTR and a pretty stock R34 GTR and I must say driving the R34 GTR is sometimes more enjoyable but I would take my R33 GTR out when I want to drive a little more "spiritedly" but still this is very limited as I only drive to the shops and the like in my GTR alone and then drive my Kluger with the family around most of the time. So really the $20K that I spent on mods for the R33 GTR somtimes frustrates me and knowing that the resell value would of course lower on modified cars. So I guess would it be true that many more owners are keeping cars stock as opposed to modifying them like the early 2000's? Cheers, Alex

Mate, we have found a common ground...I don't even count the R35 as a true Skyline GTR.

I hate to admit but I think you're on something here... The R32 is older, not many are still in good condition and are most worth much less than the R33 and R34 GTRs. And let's face it, they're not as desirable...I mean, look, please don't get me wrong but the R32 GTR is my third favourite Skyline of all time that says a lot so I don't hate it whereas R32 owners actually HATE the R33 and to some degree the R34 which says a lot.

StanceFag...love it! I cannot understand what's so attractive about these builds...looks like a fat cow on fours but anyways.

Mate, you hit the nail on the head...I hate to say this again for the 30th time, but I own both the R33 and R34 GTR and love both a lot...like after my wife, kids and close family and friends, they're next in line! But, damn, the R33 GTR's front end and rear tail lights makes it look so much better than the R34 and R33 that's why, as someone has already said, the R35 GTR is almost the next evolution of the R33 but so much more uglier.

I still think the R33 GTR screams sex appeal. Don't get me wrong, the R32 GTR is still on my list of top GTRs at number 3, around 3 spots before the hideous R35 GTR. Wow, those voluminous curves and nice juicy arse! wow! Sexci!

What if that cute girl that you liked in primary school is now a full grown sexy women in College with curves and cleavage like the R33 GTR? Would you still pass on her or go date a stick flat girl with no curves like the R32 GTR? LOL

Yep for sure much better than the mid 2000's.

As mentioned Nissan and Mitsubishi etc in the mid 2000’s globally.

Now that was no surprise but at least you left the hideous R35 GTR out. lol

Thanks pretty much my preference too only the R35 would come after the two classics 2000 GTR & Hakosuka GTX!

Couldn't have said it any better myself! LOL

Car sales have been slumping hard since the mid 2000's...a lot of auto makers such as Nissan and Mitsubishi just to name a few have come close to bankruptcy in recent times so it's no wonder they are desperate to do whatever it takes to sell more cars...if slapping their Tuning House's badge on a car with some minor mods does it!

Sorry forgot to clarify...just one guys...if you could only choose one which would be the best looking one to you... I'm ma-taking the R33 GTR.

Put the stock BOV back in or get a plumb back one. Looks like the ECU is detecting air intake mismatch.