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yeah, up here regularity is for the old slow blokes in their old slow cars who don't want to do sprints or supersprints or otherwise go fast - just nominate a time and go out there and trundle around as if you're going to the shops. So its no place for even rerasonably quick cars here, all you'd get is a dozen other cars lapping 10-30sec slower. Those who want to go fast do sprints or supersprints up here.

but the slowest guy out there who's not catching anyone and being held up will probably beat you.

i prefer to self medicate

RE regularity - its not about going as fast as you want. To win you need to nominate a time a fair bit slower than you're capable of to factor in the traffic you'll encounter on most laps. Its for old blokes who like maths and stuff. Its like a big average speed run. Boring. James May would revell in it! What other kind of motorsport can you win even if you're the slowest mofo out there? yawn... The best/ most likely way to win regularity is to be the slowest where everybody else catches and has to pass you. None of that prepares you for racing. Supersprints (actual supersprints) are about going as fast as you can consistently over the whole run, from the standing start when the start flag is dropped or the lights go out, till the chequered flag. You know, like a race... And the fastest wins - like a race... And you can race another car - you know, like a race! lol

regularity is something only old blokes are concerned about...

Actually this isn't quite true. BLCC know what a Supersprint is - they do it every year at the Bathurst Speed Weekend.

single car sprints are run with several cars on the track at once seperated at intervals and with passing generally only allowed on straights. The single car/multi car relates to how the cars are started - eg Autocrosses are also single car speed events with several cars on the track at once. In single car events, single cars are started at intervals and race nothing other than the clock. In multi car speed events "two vehicles start simultaneously" and race each other and the clock. So its not splitting hairs. They're very different events. I can see how Sydney competitors would be confused as they've never seen anything other than a sprint event. At a Supersprint those 8 cars would go out, do a warm up lap and then stop on the grid as you would in a race. Cars are started in pairs - the first two go then the next two move forward to the start line and are released after a short interval, and so on. Timing is cumulative for the run, not based on single fastest lap. Racing is allowed, not only overtaking on straights. Supersprints are designed to be a stepping stone between sprints and racing.

yeah, sprints are great. Most of the events I do are sprints. But why call it a Supersprint when its a Sprint? May as well call it the Australian Hillclimb Championship - Its not that either. Supersprints are very different to Sprints.

those "Supersprint" classes you're referring to are made up by NSW State Council, loosely based on the CAMS categories in the CAMS manual, they're not CAMS (as in Australia wide) classes. exactly - "I go, then you go" is not starting 2 at a time. even more so if the timing doesn't start until you complete the out lap and cross the start/finish line one at a time - that's the start of the sprint. you can't claim the sprint starts before the timing has started. that's not a supersprint, its a plain old single car sprint.

you might want to look back a bit further than his latest crash... he's been the one rubbing wheels with everyone like he's driving a touring car.

how do you start 2 at a time from pits? I've been to Oran Park, Wakfield and EC and the pit lanes aren't wide enough for 2 cars at a time starts. And you can't start at the same time if its one car behind the other now can you? Just because you follow each other out of the pits in pairs doesn't make it a 'start' of a supersprint... lol in that case all our sprints up here start about 12-15 cars at a time! I guess that's a race by NSW definitions. It doesn't, but the supp regs did. The CAMS regs alllow you to base times on individual laps or the complete run. But in Supersprints its customary to start in grid formation (because that's the only way to actually start cars 2 at a time) and time the complete run. In Sprints its customary to start timing at the first flying lap after releasing the cars from the pits and base results on fastest lap of the day. The classes were as per the manual. Its just that some cars don't neatly fit in anywhere so they apply some common sense. They'd be breaking a rule somewhere no matter where you were put. Except for Sport Sedans, but they didn't put you there as they assume its not fair to put a full bodied car on semis in a slicks and wings class where almost anything goes. btw, I know of Skylines log booked as 2nd category, and some have run in 2nd category classes at National level - Nations Cup for example.

gee, wonder where you came up with that idea... its not like people have been saying that about Hamilton all season or anything

None of which could host the CAMS Australian Super Sprint Championships...

CAMS is national mate. All that stuf you posted and linked is NSW centric. CAMS manual defines them as: what NSW call supersprints are what CAMS (and QLDers) call sprints. Single cars at intervals. Supersprints are 2 cars starting simultaneously, then another 2 starting at an interval. Supersprints are designed to be a step between single car sprints and racing. Passing is allowed/encouraged. btw, last year in QLD for the National Championships we didn't make any of our own rules. It was going to be a Supersprint as per the National rules in the CAMS manual with classes as per the National rules in the CAMS manual.

yeah, Massa sucks so much Hamilton needed a Glock gift on the last lap of the season to stumble over the line 1 point ahead of Massa to get his one and only WDC. Not long after that Massa had his accident and hasn't really been the same since. What's Louise's excuse? His fake girlfriend's leaving him?

For starters its actually the Australian Sprint Championship (not a supersprint), run to NSW State Council vehicle categories and classes that really aren't understood, let alone recognised, by other states. link to these new regs? bit late to change now with just 2 weeks to go??? what about those who have already entered??? thought they needed signed acceptance of changes from all entrants to make changes like that after entries opened??? At least its not quite the farce it was last year - where everyone signs up and pays to run an event as described in the supp regs only to find the morning of the event that they've caved to southerners and changed the event to suit them. ie from a multi-car supersprint format to a single car sprint format, and from cumulative timing to single fastest lap timing. It will always be a joke until they have set national rules. And while they're at it, either rename it the Australian Sprint Championships or start running it as a Supersprint as per the CAMS definition.

yeah, see there's this thing called the racing line, that you need to take to make the corner at race speed. You can't just go wider and leave room without also going slower which he wasn't. Massa's only way through that corner at that speed was the line he took. This also suggests that Dezz's observation that Hamilton probably wouldn't have made the corner either is correct. And that's before you even take into consideration the dirty surface off-line. That's why the experienced drivers we have as commentators mentioned its one at a time through that section just one lap before. Have since heard Hamilton admit in an interview he tried to pull out of the move. Half arsed passing attempt + half arsed pull out = complete Hamfisted effort. The guy's a hack.

it was just clumsy on Hamilton's part (again!) - yes, at one point he was in almost to the front wheel, but then half backed out and the collision was Hamilton's front wheel on Massa's rear. Its not really an overtaking area - if you're going to do it there you really need to make it a dominant move, clearly in front. He didn't. His move relied on the other driver getting the f*&% out of his way. He had to know Massa was not going to do that! On the other hand, I feel it was pretty deliberate from Massa - he definitely saw him going up the inside but gave him the big "f*&% you" You know its a strange call when the pommy BBC commentators are amazed that Hamilton didn't get penalised.

what's wrong with Korea? provides excellent racing and the drivers love it.

Perana V8, step aside... are these kind of shenanigans still allowed in Targa?

IRS Pajeros need heavy duty rear suspension and stuff or they'll chew out rear tyres in no time towing.

the 180 in ths pit at Lakeside before its first event. It hasn't been that shiny again since!

shocking freak accident. he was a character and a hard charger. loved watching him race. feeling for Edwards and Rossi too.

could be worse - look at QR... their most common short track leaves just 3 proper corners. Mind you, they only have 6 to start with. The short track sections are nonsence flip-floppy things through spoon drains.

more pics of my old GTR at the 2006 QLD Challenge Rally Prince Henry Drive stage Wivenhoe Spillway Common stage