dont be fooled. Think about the crappy handling, the cheap interiors, the constant petrol guzzling, driving in the wet sucks too with that much low end torque, wet cornering, modifying them is boring. It is an impressive ute though, especially when he drives it - awesome control
We went down the same road Dan, from 8's to jap, and the only way i would ever get another 8 is if its my second car that i would use as a weekender. I still love them though.