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My 2c on this one for what it is worth , from past experience. You have a point about stabillity, thats why sitting or bending the knees with a relatively lighter weight is a good place to start in terms of 'balance'. However, once you are over a certain weight (body weight for sure) you basically need to have lots of stabilisation all the way up. So legs to core to shoulder girdle ,even wrists. Each of these should not be troubled and totally up to the task before going crazy. They are supporting muscles so should have more than you need to balance and stabilise as the shoulder press should not be used to target them. Even if you bend your knees or sit, not enough shoulder stabilisation or core strength will see you get an injury with bigger weight. However , I think where Ghosty and Husky33 are comming from is; once you are lifting strong across those areas a bodyweight press with locked legs won't trouble you. In the mean time, best practice is as you said ' slight bend in the knees' or sit down and for the safest plan use a lighter weight if you don't have the confidence to press.bodyweight yet.

You might have a slight impingement likely in the piriformis. If you press just right or left of your tailbone (top of you glutes) and you feel some pain it's piriformis. You got sloppy on the last reps , back postition looked a bit far back hard to tell from the phone angle but, it's marked against the more tidy reps early. Thats where you might ahve got the issue if you have any. Get some ice on , stretch and rest then see what happens. If you have a foam roller, do the lower back, ITB's and you can roll the piriformis as well to help unlock it. You can also use something like a cricket ball for the piriformis. If you have shooting pains in the leg tomorrow go to a physio. Touch wood it's just workout pain.

Supliments ; Pre cardio ; none Post workout ; glutamine Before sleep ; Zinc /magnesium/B6 (cenovis zinc) + glucosamine /MSM Meal 1 shake with 1 cup oats (mixed with linseeds & pumkin seeds) protien powder. Meal 2 185g Tuna in oil . Brocolli. Small bowl of cooked oats (1 cup of oats + linseed +pumpkin seeds) Meal 3 eggs , veges , wholemeal bread Meal 4 185g Tuna in oil. table spoon peanut butter, apple. Meal 5 Turkay (to avoid word replacement) drum stick, veges Meal 6 Beers?

So is this a 1.5x bodyweight or 100kg? was it decided? My deads today included a set of 145kg for 12 reps. @ 96.5kg. My first deads in a very very long time.... I think I'd like to do 20 or so reps of 145kg before the end of Jan, hopefully I can vid the success in the next week or so.

Although it's sometimes a downer first time you try, once you learn how to do it properly it eventualy helps you lift more. Most people don't drive through their feet etc.

Checked my weight today . I was thinking I was maybe under eating the last two weeks or so too. Wiifit board says 96.5kg I am substituting some foods. Going tuna in oil vs spring water and adding some extra carbs in the morning in the form of more oats.

todays workout. Back. 30 min cardio swim in ocean. Dead lifts. 12 x 80kg 12 x 100kg 12 x 145kg I vomited....... Wide grip pull ups till failure( pause in middle and hold for 1sec on downward. Squeeze shoulder blades at top for 1sec) 20x 16x 15x 3 + 3 reps of pull up circles (clock wise and counter). Bent over one arm barbell rows ( 1 sec hold and squeeze at top. 6x (70kg) 2x (80kg) Internal rotations with band (rotator cuff) 3 set 10 reps External rotations with band 3 sets 10 reps Some foam roller work on the glutes and back.

or even get hurt.... but at least it will be on flim and good for lols.

yeah PTC is closest but, I am considering going to see Henry at Mucsle pit for the initial period of training heavy.

Sit down an do it, stops punters from hurting themselves initially before they do the standing version. Standing strict is just without the leg drive but, that is also a good version of the press worth throwing into training.

Pffttt...What is this ' I certainly can't ' rubbish.... you can and will ha ha..... People just need to add this as a goal. If you are able to put time into bench press you will do well to train to press your body weight for reps. Besides if you can train yourself to this goal , my bet is your bench will increase.

Yes it is good so far. But, I am really unfit, including the gym fitness. I am having a huge rest at the moment after doing my first lot of deadlifts. Almost vomited (obviously could have tried harder). RS172 needed to go. The Polo gti is reminding me to go back to a GTR. This year it will be another gtr....

two days off.. just stretching and eating. Begin workouts today again.

50% for the girls. For the boys bodyweight..

Avoid night time extra coffee, eat a night time/before bed snack. Lots different options. You can have a little bowl of warm oats mixed with some berries. You can add some vanilla flavour pure protien powder to that (one without the carbs). That will fix you.

Back extension Dumbell rear delt raises. (On . Performed with back/core held) 15x 17kg dumbells 15x 17kg 12x 17kg Seated Incline Dumbell side delt raises. 12x 10kg dumbells 10x 12kg 10x 12kg Internal rotations with band (rotator cuff) 3 set 20 reps External rotations with band 3 sets 20 reps Seated Barbell military press. Back of seat very slightly reclined. (includes lifting bar off the deck /clean---no rack or spotters to help) 14x (80kg) 12x (90kg) 6x (105kg)

last two days. just 20min cardio.

Good to find out whats in food and what you need if you have never done it. A log also helps to track things for some people. Birds is likely to know how much of what he needs and why so doesn't need to drill into every day, is what I think he is saying. I can understand if someone worried about what weight they are to lift 200kg deads. Bodyfat % ? I don't think we are talking a sound mind there ha ha... Does this deadlift make me look fat?

Well done dude! Keep going you are hitting your goals very quickly. Time to set some more ha ha...

Supliments ; Pre cardio ; beta Alanine & glutamine Post workout ; glutamine Before sleep ; Zinc /magnesium/B6 (cenovis zinc) Meal 1 shake with 1/2 cup oats (mixed with linseeds) , blueberries , protien powder. Meal 2 185g Tuna . Steamed rice . Meal 3 Beef Chilli concarne, The land of goat sphincter rings bread, tomatoes Meal 4 185g Tuna . Salad Meal 5 Stir fry beef . Veges Meal 6 Perhaps some beer? (will power.....)

workout. Cardio 20 min HIT bike. Dumbell rear delt raises. 15x (15kg) 12x (17kg) 12x (17kg) 12x (17kg) Seated Incline Dumbell side delt raises. 12x (10kg) 10x (12kg) 10x (12kg) 10x (12kg) Internal rotations with band (rotator cuff) 3 set 10 reps External rotations with band 3 sets 10 reps Seated Barbell military press. (includes lifting bar off the deck/no rack) 12x (70kg) 12x (80kg) 12x (80kg)

Initial fix up workouts for wrists /elbows/ shoulders have definately got me into the land of two day later pains. My range of motion on the stretches for my left side was pretty bad. I should have mentioned I am doing lots of these to help ROM and recovery every day. Even the cursed foam roller is being dusted off to help unlock things before I do anything serious for the legs. Rolling the ITB's fricken pain city... The plan is I won't be doing any squats /deads or bench till I complete this phase of recovery and earning the right through demonstrated commitment to go to a gym. Once I am happy , I will be in there to re-learn and train to go hard. oh and do lots of squats of course.....

meals Meal 1 shake with 1/2 cup oats (mixed with linseeds) , rasberries , protien powder. Meal 2 185g Tuna . Steamed rice . Apple Meal 3 Ham , tomatoes , wholemeal bread Meal 4 185g Tuna . Salad Meal 5 Chilli Beef Nachos . Fresh Habaneos

workout dumbell wrist curls 12x (25kg) 12x (25kg) 12x (25kg) Reverse dumbell wrist curls 12x (10kg) 12x (10kg) 12x 10kg seated (slightly reclined) dumbell hammer curls 12x (25kg) 10x (30kg) 7x (32.5kg) 6x (32.5kg)

Small relative to what? The average male or the average bodybuilder/ cricket player / golfer / sumo? Compared to you? Birds is 'big' by society standards / average male. I am pretty sure he would be getting the comments from people that he lifts.