Michele

I think you got confused... I think the homo was in the SKY32R wasn't he? PS: It was great to see so many of you at the Hillclimb meeting (myself included).

I was my first look at the GP circuit as well and you're right, its totally awesome. The kink takes a lot of nerve to get through at speed, especially when you sit low because you can't see where it's going until you're at the kink. Had a few heart stop/starts at that point but all worked out well in the end. I have never been to EC, so can't compare turn 1 yet. You really need to get to the Bathurst Speed Weekend too and the BLCC are super super people. Let me know if you need any help or info for these events.

I won't be able to make all events in 2010 either. Type 5 isn't only Formula cars... geesh guys, and you say I'm not listening.

As I've said before, there are FIVE type 5 cars entered in the Championship and I am aware of a further three who are joining. And you will continue to hear about the disconnect, whether you like it or not until the disconnect is fixed. And I am not the only person who wants this changed back to the way it was.

Type 5 isn't only 5E, it is also 5A, 5B, 5C & 5D - This isn't about ME and I am not the only one who doesn't agree with it. But now it seems its all about Formula Holden. I am not running the whole series, never was (Neil can vouch for that). Yet people are labelling me as a trophy hunter and think Im playing in their playground to steal all their candy. Yet they accuse me of sour grapes and attack me personally, including my finances (inaccurately). I signed up for AASA and they pulled the pin. I signed up with CAMS when they were doing IRACE... and they pulled the pin. But I am doing IRACE now its gone independant.

Guys... can you please stop assuming how much I paid for my car or my race budget? You are all waaaaaaaayyy off the mark and are making a discriminating judgement for all the wrong reasons. My car was a retired museum piece when I picked it up. While ever my car is a legitimate CAMS category (and it IS), it should be allowed at a CAMS state level event. May the fastest car/driver combination get outright & thats the way it should be. Otherwise, don't have an Outright title, just have the class titles. PS: for those who think I am hunting this change for me, let me make it clear in advance that I am unable to make all events, there is NO chance of me getting outright because some of these events clash with my other events. I also want to make it clear that I have no disrespect for the organisers of these days or the competitors. It was a great day with fantastic people.

That would be a great outcome

What makes you think my budget is more than yours? What is wrong, is that there are 5 cars entered who are legitimate CAMS categories who are not eligible for points at a CAMS state level event. What is wrong is they are falsely awarding an Outright title. All I am asking is to include ALL categories in the Outright title or remove the title altogether. What is wrong is that they should never have changed the rules in the first place... and they should be ashamed of their reasoning.

What you are suggesting would be halfway acceptable if this were a club level event, but it is not. This is the CAMS 2009 Supersprint Championships and therefore all CAMS categories should be included. Bathurst Light Car Club hold club level supersprints and type 5 are eligible. Thornleight Car Club hold supersprints and type 5 is eligible. Last year it was mandatory for type 5 to do three supersprints before they were allowed to run at the Nationals, however type 5 were not eligible for outright points in NSW. A disconnect. By all means have multiple championships within the series, but don't call one of them Outright if it isn't. If not allowing all legitimate CAMS categories, I propose that they eliminate the deceptive Outright title altogether. What is wrong with that? Why would anyone like to see a deceptive title awarded? CAMS said it was to stop an individual from winning all the time. Tell me this isn't blatant event fixing? Yet I can't find anything on Natsoft to suggest a type 5 vehicle was winning constantly. In fact, the event record is held by a well deserved clubman. I'm about making this fair for all legitimate CAMS categories, nothing else.

That sounds great, thanks for organising

Okay, I'll let Bob know as well, get him to follow up because he is not showing up as registered. The original paperwork had the wrong fax number, it wasn't supposed to go to CAMS. I'm not sure what happened at CAMS end, but most of those ones went missing.

Kat was pretty good at searching for hers... she was like a pitbull, she wouldn't let go. I think we should get her on a mission to find some for us, not that mine are the same LOL

Listen? You can hear things in here?

okay, everyone got their GPS tracking devices on and James in the boot??

I wasn't referring to me specifically, but you are the one saying my car shouldn't be there. Even though it IS a legitimate CAMS type/category. What other reasons can you give for not wanting it there?

And, I'm referring to trying to change the rules for 2010 NOT 2009. I haven't said anything about trying to get CAMS to see the mistake for 2009. Stop going back over that. I had a ball and will be going to as many as I can. No-one heard a peep out of me on the weekend about the rules. I accept them for 2009, but it doesn't make them right.

The rules are wrong and you want to knock off a tall poppy for being too fast at a STATE LEVEL EVENT... perhaps you should get the ladies trophy for the day. How Aussie of you.

He was contantly referring to a clubman rule for their class. This doesn't apply to outright. I keep saying this but people keep going back to the clubman class, you don't have to be registered and you don't have to have DOT tyres to be eligible for outright.

All interested? 1) Ex!$t3nZ 2) Michele 3) Mark 4)

What do people want to do? Go to Dendy or wait and see if it opens up at Hoyts? Hoyts are still promoting the movie, I wonder if they are going to put it on at a later date? What do people think? or, do we still go to Hoyts and watch something else?

BYO Chair and drinks And to you bl00dy chair thieves, if you don't bring a chair, don't steal someone elses

I'm sorry, but they do exist. Ask CAMS. This may surprise you, but this series is about more than Clubmans!! This is NOT the NSW Clubman Supersprint Championship - They can have whatever title they want to give themselves within this Championship, Outright Clubbie, Outright anything else they want, but it shouldn't be straight out Outright and you don't have to be registered or run street tyres to be eligible for "Outright". I agreed to compete with the current rules, and will abide by the rules, but this doesn't make them right. Amazing... It's just unbelievable, that you can sit there and whinge about a Formula Holden frequently taking outright at your events and how you would like to bring her or him down, yet cannot, for one moment, fathom why we wouldn't want to right the wrong of having the outright winner stand by and watch the "outright" title being awarding to someone who was slower than them. And you have the audacity to throw your sour grapes analogy in my direction. Un*believable. If you want to knock off that FH at your events, get a better car and point it around the track better than they do and earn it honestly. No need to fix the event. Outright is Outright. By all means.... give them a title, call it what you like, but it shouldn't be called Outright.

Ahh I thought your nickname was same/similar to the number plate and thought it must have been you.

Still don't have to be registered or on road tyres to be eligible for "outright". Was that an ARC airbox you were running? Are you happy with it?

Did Mark (551) register for the Championship Series? If so, let me know and I will find out what has happened to his paperwork, seems those who sent their forms to CAMS had most of their forms go AWOL. If he didn't, then this is why he wasn't on the original results I posted up.