done the print screen thing but i didnt know you could just hide them so easy, i had to drag them into a new folder....thanks!!! But serious we have the free cars guide post where you can sell your car for free if you log it online and keep it short. worked a treat...the vaso is a good one, pick 5 places that only he will touch and cover it, his throttle, mouse, vaso on the ear part of his receiver, if he has a car his door handle, what about in his helmet if he rides to work. let us know...