Hks Fcon Is

[noisia]

hey,

does anyone run this ecu yet? if so, wots there opinion?

also, being a new ecu to perth was the tune good etc?

she driveable day to day?

cheers

[33drifter]

i run the fcon s, not sure what the difference is, but im about to replace it with a haltec as the fcon doesnt handle my new mods, although having said that it worked perfectly for me upto 250rwkw

[Kaido_RR]

hey,

does anyone run this ecu yet? if so, wots there opinion?

also, being a new ecu to perth was the tune good etc?

she driveable day to day?

cheers

only xspeed can tune HKS ecu in perth. so you are limited to them

[342Four]

theres only like 3 places in australia that tune HKS f-con systems

very good unit considering apex went bust

full 3d extrapolation maps (from 2d) for fuel and timing, its just that they are a bit on the expensive side, and like michael said, ur limited to xspeed

[MattyP]

Expensive from the tuning side, or for the actual unit?

A car I'm wishing to purchase soon has the HKS F-Con (V Pro Gold :S same thing), however I'm not sure whether its worth my while taking it out and putting a Power FC in there instead as the cost of the FC plus tuning is apparently similar to the cost of just tuning a HKS F-Con.

At the end of the day, is the money you fork out to purchase and tune an F-Con worth it ($ vs. Gain) vs. Power FC + other ECUs.

[Kaido_RR]

Expensive from the tuning side, or for the actual unit?

A car I'm wishing to purchase soon has the HKS F-Con (V Pro Gold :S same thing), however I'm not sure whether its worth my while taking it out and putting a Power FC in there instead as the cost of the FC plus tuning is apparently similar to the cost of just tuning a HKS F-Con.

At the end of the day, is the money you fork out to purchase and tune an F-Con worth it ($ vs. Gain) vs. Power FC + other ECUs.

hey matty,

Expensive from both the tuning side and the actual unit.

If the tuner has had limited time with the ecu it make take them longer to tune it and therefore cost you more.

the F-Con ecu is a great ecu better than the Apexi Pfc IMO, if i was you i would just keep it in and get xspeed to tune it max you are looking at is $400-$600 for initial tune. which you will have to pay that if you buy an apexi powerfc.

Also if its the V Pro (ecu is gold itself) then its the top model and worth keeping as you are looking at 1.5k+ for the ecu + the cost of the harness = big $$$$

Apexi Powerfc is $1000 (depending what car you got, im guessing its a GTR so then its around the 1-1.1k mark) then tuning $400.

The only problem you may have is if you have a problem with xspeed then your pretty much up shit creek without a paddle with the hks unit

cheers michael

[342Four]

i personally wouldnt buy a car based on teh ecu in the car, but in terms of tuneability - apparently they are a better unit then teh PFC AND XSpeed are the only place in WA. and if you dont like them then tuff

Hot4's had an article about them a while ago (or was it zoom?) and the had a F-Con S put in an Aristo

very simple to tune once base maps were established according to the article....

[N I B]

If its in the car then try it out,If your not happy with it then change over.

[MattyP]

Cheers for the info guys.

Yes it is a GTR Michael...I'm sick of doing single peggers, and time to get all 4 smoking now

I'm not buying the car based on the ECU, however it just happened to be the one installed in the car. The other modifications to the car were the main appeal for me. At first I thought the HKS unit was just some cheap jap ecu unit you wouldn't be able to modify, but seems I'm quiet far from it. lol.

I'll give the unit a go and see how it pans out.

[Brockas]

very good unit considering apex went bust

No, they didn't. Chinese whispers ftl.

AP Engineering stopped producing units. RB26 PowerFC's are still freely available from APEXi and can be bought here:

http://www.nengun.com/apexi/power-fc-hand-controller-d-jetro

Matty, as I know the car you're thinking of buying, I wouldn't let the ECU stop you.

It's more than likely it wont need a tune at all, however if you want to get the tune checked and ensure it's going to run smoothly on our poxy 98ron fuel (like I did when mine came in) it wont cost you much more than a couple hours dyno time at $130 an hour.

If it's really bothering you, I'll swap you my PowerFC for your F-Con

Edited August 22, 2007 by Brockaz

[satanic]

I'm in Sydney and I've jumped onto the F-CON boat (F-CON V Pro); never looking back... I've had numerous cars roll through with quite a few different systems and when you factor in cost of unit, cost of tuning, and time taken to install then it's all pretty much on par with each other.

Even though the F-CON does not come with a base map (V PRO, IS and S have base maps I believe) the setup configuration is a 15minute process by entering the car's details into the PowerWriter software.

When comparing the HKS units to those like the PFC; you're in too completely different worlds... there are probably 100 different things on the F-CON that the PFC doesn't have or won't have. Also; might I add that the F-CON units are upgradeable in the sense new features can be loaded on - my last tune had a whole bunch of compensation components loaded in as an upgrade; not many ECUs allow for this.

At the end of the day; there is a reason why they call it the "Motec of Japan"

[MattyP]

What do you mean by "compensation components loaded in as an upgrade"?

I want the car badly Brockas, and nothing (except another buyer) is going to stop me lol.

[satanic]

New tuning parameters to make the overall fuel / ignition maps look a bit better - it had something to do with how the main maps communicate with the submaps.