10seconds 1/4mile

[-FIGJAM-]

Ok Guys

Id like to build a 10second car in the future. Problem is im a P-plater and i cant afford a second car. I brought a completly stock R33 s2 and was wondering if people have transformed their non turbo's into 10second cars?

Also what is involved apart from turbo conversion? is a full motor transplant the way to go or are ther other options?

Am off my p's next year, will either start the conversion then or the year after, depending on the price.

Cheers

[B. J.]

LOL

you in NSW?

cant drive a modified car, of any description.

if you cant afford a 2nd car, you cant afford a 10 second car.

I thought school went back yesterday?

[gun32gtr]

you would need thousands of that stuff called money

[Eug]

was wondering if people have transformed their non turbo's into 10second cars?

john (NA_R33) has, it is/was a non turbo r33

Also what is involved apart from turbo conversion?

how long is a piece of string?

more power, new engine, suspension work, weight reduction, the list goes on.

is a full motor transplant the way to go or are ther other options?

to answer your question simply, yes.

what are your limitations? if it's money than don't bother.

Id like to build a 10second car in the future. Problem is im a P-plater and i cant afford a second car.

you have answered your own question.

a 10 second car isn't cheap, even by force induced standards. expect to spend at least double for an NA build.

as a reference the ferrari enzo runs a low 11 second and the mclaren f1 runs a mid-11 seconds.

cheapest most cost effective 10 second 1/4 mile non turbo vehicle would be a motorbike.

i have seen your threads around various parts of the forum, it's understandable that you are new to the whole modifcation/car scene. however a little self research and study doesn't go astray, people will not spoon feed you with a formula that works. i suggest you search and read up on things a little before you post threads, in a few months time you'll be looking back in retrospect going 'what the hell was i thinking'

i'll let this thread run a little while longer

eug

[Granthem]

man im so used to these threads on boost... sadly i hadnt seen many on here

[HR31DRFT]

Bud 10sec car... why do i get angry WHY????????

I blame need for speed "you still owe me a 10sec car"

OH and v-tec yo

Edited January 30, 2008 by HR31DRFT

[Eug]

Bud 10sec car... why do i get angry WHY????????

I blame need for speed "you still owe me a 10sec car"

OH and v-tec yo

that is a hot HR31 - got pics?

[cuppas]

need for speed had no 10-second car line!

that was fast and the furious, lol

edit- the fast and the furious remake, that is

the original is from black-and-white times, and possibly has better acting.

Edited January 30, 2008 by cuppas

[SKiT_R31]

you'll need 'enough nos to level a city block'

just put double welds on your floor pan, and ignore your computer, the manifolds fine.

[-FIGJAM-]

Obviously a bit of a different question. People will have mixed opinions about whether or not its worth the trouble/cost. No i cant afford a 10sec car now, but in a couple of years i may be able too. I still have a while untill my loan is paid off and am off my P's next year. Alls i wanted to know is if people have done it or not really.

Eug, thanks for the feed back. Yes i have posted a few threads round here, but i have also read a few of the topics around the forum to get a bit of an idea. I read the sticky one about turbo conversion but dont know if i believe a full conversion would only cost 3grand. I thought a minimum would be 7grand for a decent conversion, accounting for the variouse problems that would arise. Add to the fact that i want a 10sec car i thought probably a total of 15grand. To those people out there putting shit on me for asking the question, obviously the build wouldnt happen over night.

I guess i want to know if im close to being on target with my price?

cheers

[jenkies]

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OH and v-tec yo

get a vtec guage so you know "how much vtec is left" man i loved that thread

just put double welds on your floor pan, and ignore your computer, the manifolds fine.

just a bit of food for thought... 15 grand wont get u 10 seconds down the strip... i just forked 15 thru my gtr and its hardly a drag car.... maybe high 11's

as for n/a.... very dificult to get massive numbers unless you completely strip it and fork out enough for a deposit on a house.

as for converting your na to turbo in a year or so?? just buy a complete rb25det they are relatively cheap these days.

good luck but im sure u will find out soon that numbers arent as easy to get as writing them down on paper takes patience time and alotta money and preparation

[-FIGJAM-]

Hey Jenkies

Thanks for the reply. Atleast now i have a better idea of what im in for. Out of curosity what do the R33 GTR's run down the 1/4? Is 10sec really that hard to get? i thought it was pretty standard now days? i just want the car to have the power and looks. an all round package f you know what i mean

[Eug]

Eug, thanks for the feed back. Yes i have posted a few threads round here, but i have also read a few of the topics around the forum to get a bit of an idea. I read the sticky one about turbo conversion but dont know if i believe a full conversion would only cost 3grand. I thought a minimum would be 7grand for a decent conversion, accounting for the variouse problems that would arise. Add to the fact that i want a 10sec car i thought probably a total of 15grand. To those people out there putting shit on me for asking the question, obviously the build wouldnt happen over night.

3 grand for a turbo conversion is very do-able, provided you have some know how and can do the labour yourself. with all the parts ready (ecu, manifold, turbo, lines, pipe work, intercooler), it can be done in a weekend.

double the cost if you pay someone else to do it.

I guess i want to know if im close to being on target with my price?

not even close. provided that there might be a $15K 10 second skyline combination somewhere, but you will not be able to do that reliably. expect upwards of $30-40K as a general rule of thumb.

Hey Jenkies

Thanks for the reply. Atleast now i have a better idea of what im in for. Out of curosity what do the R33 GTR's run down the 1/4? Is 10sec really that hard to get? i thought it was pretty standard now days? i just want the car to have the power and looks. an all round package f you know what i mean

10 seconds is easy, some people are just cheque book racers nowadays. go to shop xxxx throw around $40K and bingo you have your car with xxx RWKW and a 10 second machine. they don't really end up racing professionally it simply becomes a bragging point. the guys who take it seriously and who you really want to check out are two.06l, 2rismo, na_r33, giant, jas/slo32, bu5ster, etc.

have a look at this thread for timeslips: http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Sa...try-t91916.html

it seems to be that you're simply chasing a number, because you can/want to. start with the basics and work your way up. learn to control the car and it's dynamics, how it reacts when you break traction, in the wet, under brakes, etc etc.

eug

[jenkies]

3 grand for a turbo conversion is very do-able, provided you have some know how and can do the labour yourself. with all the parts ready (ecu, manifold, turbo, lines, pipe work, intercooler), it can be done in a weekend.

double the cost if you pay someone else to do it.

not even close. provided that there might be a $15K 10 second skyline combination somewhere, but you will not be able to do that reliably. expect upwards of $30-40K as a general rule of thumb.

10 seconds is easy, some people are just cheque book racers nowadays. go to shop xxxx throw around $40K and bingo you have your car with xxx RWKW and a 10 second machine.

it seems to be that you're simply chasing a number, because you can/want to. start with the basics and work your way up. learn to control the car and it's dynamics, how it reacts when you break traction, in the wet, under brakes, etc etc.

eug

+1

[SKiT_R31]

i also aggree with everything above.

On that note though, i turbo'd an n/a car for <$1000, inc ecu, injectors, highflow t3, stock manifold, sidemount and piping, dump and exhaust, all second had though, went hard, just food for thaught.

Your N/A engine would be fine, there would be no need to get a 25det, because to be making that sort of power reliably, your going to have to rebuild the entire engine anyway, and nothing will be left stock.

before you decide a 10 second car is for you, think why, and drive a 12 second car, for most people a car such as an r33 in the 12's would be waaay fast enough, esp for street, and you can keep some drivability.

[-FIGJAM-]

i want the 10sec for one purpose, as wanky as it is, id just like to say that i have a 10second car. Id like the car to be respectable and eventually perhaps even show worthy.

Im not much of a rev head on the streets anyway, because seriously whats the point? loose my licence and my car? get a huge fine? just stupid in my opinion so i dont need the power for the street.

been thinking about this for awhile, and probably is a bit too expensive to make the N/A exactly what i want, which is a shame cause it is a top car. i was thinking better the devil you know, type thing rather then gettin a gtst or gtr which chances r has been thrashed when i got one which is in pretty good nic.

Perhaps the better option would be to try and get a healthy amount of hp and kw at the wheels. Probably better for my frame of mind anyway seems how i dont really go to the 1/4 all the time

Thanks for the feed back guys was really good.

[HR31DRFT]

I've just spent $20g just on my engine and it still wont be a 10sec car, so my hr31 "worth around 8-10k" plus 20g engine = nearly 30grand.

Once u get to the 11sec mark, 1sec quicker costs big bucks.

Dude when u say i want 10sec car Vin Diesel pops in my head "and all the wank what goes along with it"

U'll be happy with a 25det conversion, pon cams, injectors, zorst, boost and a good tune.

My 2c

[WHITER33GTS-T]

Just add a huge shot of nos.

I want a 10sec car too but mine has cost me 25K plus and my engine and auto still arent in the car yet and still needs to be tuned.

Edited January 31, 2008 by WHITER33GTS-T

[Eug]

i'm going to pick on you here just because you have typed without thinking...

i want the 10sec for one purpose, as wanky as it is, id just like to say that i have a 10second car. Id like the car to be respectable and eventually perhaps even show worthy.

seems how i dont really go to the 1/4 all the time

because seriously whats the point? loose my licence and my car? get a huge fine? just stupid in my opinion so i dont need the power for the street.

you've basically answered your own questions here.

what you want to do and how you want to do it is your choice.

but when you look at it from a more mature, financial, 'was it worth it?' point of view. your 10 second car is just an excuse for a hypothetical penis extension

Perhaps the better option would be to try and get a healthy amount of hp and kw at the wheels. Probably better for my frame of mind anyway

you're already looking back in retrospect. well done.

concentrate on what's more important and logical. we can all have dreams, but one step at a time eh?

and that ladies and gentlemen brings me to a very happily locked thread.

eug