Odometer Tampering

[DRD-00F]

I rolled over 120k a few weeks ago... and I'm fairly damn certain that my Ks weren't tampered with cause it was a log booked car in Japan that had hit just under 100k and the dude sold it, and said the service had to be done...

However, once it hit 120k, the 2 doesn't line up perfectly... It was rather upsetting when it didn't drop all the way down... but I'm still confident that the Ks weren't rolled back...

[33Sedan]

If yours were straight before then its all good I'd say, its only because they are not made to be wound back, so it always leaves them misaligned, unless the guys spends alot of time winding it back till they all sit straight (which could take a very long time and could wind it back all the way lol)

[33Sedan]

The only thing that might prevent this from getting anywhere is that I have driven just over 20,000km's since I bought it.

[DRD-00F]

That's about how many I have done since I bought it...

over 3 years ago...

[33Sedan]

yea mines the daily driver for uni and work so i done that in 1.5 years i'd say

[33Sedan]

Booked in for monday at Gas Tune in tuggers. They said they can check the odometer for just under 50 bucks. They said they can't provide a legal document but i guess once i know if it has been altered then i can go further and find someone who can provide a document saying that it has been wound back etc.

[ZENNON]

Booked in for monday at Gas Tune in tuggers. They said they can check the odometer for just under 50 bucks. They said they can't provide a legal document but i guess once i know if it has been altered then i can go further and find someone who can provide a document saying that it has been wound back etc.

my numbers dont line up either - and you know what - i think its been rolled back!

wanna know how i know - cos its an imported skyline..

you're wasting your money IMHO..

[oscar32]

I really wish that you could do something about this -0 as there is nothing worse than being ripped off with a car with low low kays, to find out at best its average kays.

I'm not sure you are going to be able to do anything. You'll probably cop a whole heap of "We didn't knows" from people - and everyone WILL pass the buck. The yard in Japan will say its the importers, the Importers will say its the dealer - or auction or something.

I wish you all the best, but will be suprised if anyone does anything for you - even though thats total crap.

[ZENNON]

yeah when i said i think your wasting your money i didn't want to be a bastard

i hope you can do something about it but think your chances are very slim

[black_gtst]

when you say your gearbox is stuffed, do you mean the syncros are playin up or something more serious? because it is very posable for syncros to play up at even less ks than yours if cogs are grabbed hard on cold g/b oil!

brett

[widebody32]

If your odo doesn't line up it is most likely it has been wound back.

As for getting any help from the importer or much worse the Jap car yard i think you are fighting a loosing battle. It is quite common for odometers to be wound back or replaced and in the jap engineers report will actually say this.

All the car yard is going to say is that to there knowledge it had not been wound back and you will waste a lot more in court than a repair to a gearbox for a case you most likely won't win.

And seeing as all the power has been taken from gov branches like fair trading and the like you will be in for a expensive court case.

Sorry but its the reality

[33Sedan]

I had the gearbox pulled apart a couple of times, ahd the syncros done, oil, bits of metal removed etc. Sometimes it won't go into gear (even when warmed up) and creaks when using the clutch.

Taking it to Trojan sometime soon for them to have a look. just hard as im southside, got uni and work etc...

Edited February 27, 2008 by 33Sedan

[33Sedan]

I know my chances are slim but i think its worth a try.

PS:

Motor Car Traders Act 1986 - SECT 38

(4) A person must not, in the course of selling or exchanging a motor car,

falsely represent the accuracy of an odometer reading of the car.

The Motor Dealers Act (The Act) makes it illegal to interfere with an odometer. It states that the following actions are deemed to be interference:

* altering the reading of the odometer

* removing or replacing the odometer

* rendering the odometer inoperative or inaccurate by any means whatsoever

* fitting a device capable of rendering the odometer inoperative or inaccurate.

A dealer is also prohibited from advertising or specifying that the reading of an odometer is accurate if the dealer knows or has reasonable cause to know that this is not the case.

[CeJay]

The dealer may plead ignorance, if it was done in japan so to speak. It all depends on proving it.

[33Sedan]

If they have any doubt that the clock may have been wound back, and then sold it knowing that and advertising it as less Km's, AND considering their job is to import japanese cars which alot have been wound back, they should know of the problem and look out for it, OR notify the buyers that it may have been wound back.

Otherwise if I was a house salesman and sold you a house that i said was made after the 1990's, while really it was made in the 1960's and has Asbestos in it lol. In skyline talk it has problems related to being used much more...

This is the argument that i see playing out anyway.

I don't care if nothing comes out of it, atleast i gave it a shot rather than thiking nah its too bigger a deal and i couldn't be bothered.

[33Sedan]

If you ask the dealer, "Do you get many import cars in that have their Odo's wound back?"

They will obviously reply back "Yes we do"

"Have you sold these vehicles? Do you have a system to find out if they have been wound back? Do you notify your customers that the km's probably arn't genuine? Do you sometimes suspect some imported cars have been wound back, but do nothing about it?"

[CeJay]

I can see why your doing it, all I'm saying is that it may not be easy, and may not be best to keep talking about it here, if your going to take it further.

I'm pretty sure my kms have been wound back, since my log books state that my car was serviced at 122k odd kms in japan, when I bought the car it only had 94k or so k's, but I sought of thought that would be the case, and went into the purchase expecting that. Considering the engine was replaced and other work had been done, I thought it would even out.

[33Sedan]

Good point. Will keep it to updates from now on ;-) Next update will be monday arvo!

[SkyGTRline]

i personally thought when buyin an import.. you expect the odo to be messed with...

So ive heard, its just how it is...

When buying a car, you look and its all round condition, not the Km's and just work off that..

all depends on how the car was treated... maybe your car has done either 99 or 120k, it also could of been a hard life for the gearbox.

[chubs]

hey this kinda happened to a mate of mine altho he bought his here not import it himself. this was roughly 3 years ago. car was daily driven and saw many cruises and such. When selling it his gf's mother who used to actually race cars (and is strange cos we get alot of protocol and paper work advice from her lol) anyway she traced the paper work right back to compliance here and when it left japan. now the kms dropped that dramatically between japan and here that even with 3 years of driving the car still had not hit the kms it was reading before leaving japan. its a common thing with any import i guess.