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When The AP Engineering PFC was plentiful and could be imported for around 1k a ramp was worth ~800 for the first tune and then approx 500-600 for further tunes.

The PFC on the other hand was ~1k + ~300 for tunes. So I went with the PFC.

Speak to Jeff at Turbo Tune and see what he does remaps for. The only option these days is to drop a rb26 pfc in to the r32 gtst. It does have additional benifits of inlet air temp sensor correction etc which is handy for those hot days or thrashing it at Mallala.

what cubes said.

oif u can get a PFC cheap as chips.. .then do it, buit personally the remap is the way to go, and dont be folled into thinking that the PFC is better then the Stock ecu as this often is not the case, One example is the stock ECU has detonation control, where as the PFC flashes a light at you.

depends on what power your wanting and what your going to be using the car for...

if its dailey driven and just want abit of a tune then the remap is alot cheaper option then a new computer system for a 32 plus its not defectable.

with the extra cash you save on for a remap you can use to buy some mods for the remap.

Simon the std ecu does have det control but it is very limited.

R32's and RB25's have still cracked ring lands due to det on the stock ecu. :)

Personally I prefer the dash light flashing as you then know something is wrong and can get it rectified.

ImportS13... A remap is defectable but is not 'detectable'. Either is the pfc if you shove the stock ecu's cover on it. :(

nothing is idiot proof... if your thrashing on a 40 degree day with shit fuel, the thing is going to ping to death with even the smartest ecu on board. that said, i like the fact the stock ECU will do SOMETHING rather then NOTHING. a flashing light is well and good but when im on the track i dont look at the dash :(

Agree nothing is idiot proof. If the knock map is tuned conservatively no doubt you will feel the power be sucked out of the car so probably a little better than a flashing light. The other concern would be if its too conservative egt's will skyrocket if you keep stuck in to it.

The rb26 pfc ecu has inlet air temp correction, 20x20 fuel/ign maps (finer tune) vs 16x16 on the std ecu.. another couple of plus but for an additional price. :(

If I could get the ecu remapped for $500-600 and then further tunes for a few hundred I'd jump at it.

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