Rann Rant

[SLEEPR85]

ok guys i'm not usually an angry person but upon hearing the latest news i blew my top

Just heard on the news that since Mike Rann's government took over 6 years ago, 1.3 million people have been fined for "speeding" for driving between 61-69 km/h by the laws that they have passed. This equates to around 212 million dollars of bullshit revenue that they get from us. What this means is that you or someone you know has been a victim of their crimes against us drivers.

This personally affects me as i was caught couple of times for doing 67 and subsequently lost my licence because of it, and its not just me. These laws have cost many people i know their licences because of alleged "speeding".

Sorry guys, i'm not usually this political but it just gets my goat that i'm not even allowed to drive my car normally anymore. Its like every two seconds I have to look at the speedo to make sure i'm not doing 1km/h over 60. Do they expect us to all drive like granny's? God forbid that someone would walk out in front of me while doin 66, don't think my massive brembo's are up to the task of braking!

And that people is what grinds my gears!

(Mods please delete if this is below the belt)

[Damo_R34]

Just dont speed? Fining us for breaking the law isn't a crime. You do the crime, you do the time (or pay the subsequent fine)

[Adz2332]

No i agree with him... i have noticed myself that i have become less attentive to the road and concentrating more on my speedo. So how is this going to help keep accidents down??

And they have never proven that there speed cameras are 100% acurate... So there using somethinf they know could be wrong but are happy to do so...

Edited June 20, 2008 by Adz2332

[Madaz]

Nice unforseen pun at the end i agree though

im all for tough on crim laws but this hp hardly a criminal offence

and where has that money gone certainly not on the roads

[SLEEPR85]

But thats exactly my point. They keep moving around what they consider to be speeding and it messes everyone up. When i started driving it wasn't heard of for getting fined for anything under 70. Now you just have a slight lapse in judgement and boom, your gone.

[GI Joe]

and what about us paying for millions of dollars for the politician's petrol?

ud think that with their pay and the company car, they can fork out some money to pay for their own bloody petrol!

[Damo_R34]

We can do what that european city did and remove all road/traffic signs and traffic lights!

[SLED]

yeah its interesting that they began to clamp down more & more on speeds when they decided that Port Wakefield Rd needed a major facelift and that we needed an underpass on South Rd/Anzac Hwy!

Having said that, you won't get busted for 61 or 62 kph, I think the 10% rule still applies in SA unlike VIC that has a 5% rule now.

If you got a ticket for under 65kph I would be surprised if you couldn't argue before a magistrate that your speedo is out that far.

[nos man]

well rules are rules! they set them and we have to abide by them! even though it doesn't seem fair but when has it ever been fair? well probably a good time to get cruise control and a speed check because you never know! your speedo might say you're doing 60 but you could be doing 61

[Adz2332]

To much has been said lately about hoon drivers, speeding etc etc. The death toll will never be zero. Doesnt matter what they do. Every year more cars are on the road. Cars are getting older with new cars less affordable. And dont even get me started about the condition of the roads we drive on. So you cant honestly tell me they think by lowering the speed in which we get fined at will combat all of this and decrease the road toll..... how stupid do they think we are! lol

[Howie]

I read that too... the statistics are frightening!

60-69km/h Fines went up from

1515 Offences in 2002 to

100,800 Offences in 2007.

My god!!! Tell me, is the whole population speeding more, or is the government seeing an opportunity for a money grab. That's bs. And it's not just that too... do 35km/h approaching an RBT zone and you'll get pinged as RBT zones even though not signed are 25km/h.

How is this improving public safety... ??? Sorry Rann but you're out in my books in 2010.

[Mowbuss]

When you fit rims / wheels, the ADR requirement in SA is that the speedo must be accurate to 10% or something like that (have a printout in my car). So say your in a 60 zone, doing 65, technically speaking thats not illigal as it could just be the innacuracy of your speedo, and you werent "aware" that you were speeding. Also, it used to be, and I dont know why they changed it, that you couldnt get fined if you were withing that 10% margin.

Personally I think its absoloutely bullshit that they fine you if your doing 61-65 in a 60 zone. I mean heck, it could be a split second when ur on a negative slope and yet you get done for it.

[Damo_R34]

I got done 57 in a 50 last year, $190 ish fine hurts for not much over

[Redback]

the victorian goverment is the same. it shits me......

[RubyRS4]

They're still just lowering speed limits all over Adelaide and sticking speed cameras there with the intention of catching out 'unobservant drivers'. Not 'speeding drivers', but 'unobservant drivers'.

I don't care what they call it, its REVENUE RAISING plain and simple. They don't really want us to be safer drivers, because when we do slow down and their revenue drops, they start lowering speed limits again and sticking cameras everywhere. They WANT us to be criminals. If we don't, they work out strategies to increase the number of speeding drivers. Remember the introduction of the bullshit 50kph limit? They introduced that one when revenue was declining!

Edited June 20, 2008 by RubyRS4

[Boof]

yeah its interesting that they began to clamp down more & more on speeds when they decided that Port Wakefield Rd needed a major facelift and that we needed an underpass on South Rd/Anzac Hwy!

Having said that, you won't get busted for 61 or 62 kph, I think the 10% rule still applies in SA unlike VIC that has a 5% rule now.

If you got a ticket for under 65kph I would be surprised if you couldn't argue before a magistrate that your speedo is out that far.

Think the 10% rule has changed here as well, not 100% sure on that...Just came back from Victoria a couple of weekends ago, and my dad's cousin who we spent a fair bit of time with is an ex cop and his wife is a cop and they don't have a % rule its 3km's over the limit thats it pinged...

Thing i don't get is we have an ADR rule that says your speedo must be accurate to within 10% of the nominated speed sign...Now apparently the state governments have decided they rule the roost and they've set their own % for speedo accuracy?? Doesn't sound right does it

[PREISS]

I always thought dont speed dont get caught. ...well I was caught a couple weeks back doing 60km in a 50km zone, there was a paddock one side and just some old houses on the other side. wide open road. how was I supposed to know it was a 50km zone ? people could go down this road at 2345346km hour.

[Tangles]

revenue raising IMHO

[mrgtt]

f**k mike rann he lost my vote yonks ago

[HOSTILE]

To much has been said lately about hoon drivers, speeding etc etc. The death toll will never be zero. Doesnt matter what they do. Every year more cars are on the road. Cars are getting older with new cars less affordable. And dont even get me started about the condition of the roads we drive on. So you cant honestly tell me they think by lowering the speed in which we get fined at will combat all of this and decrease the road toll..... how stupid do they think we are! lol

Agreed. The death toll has remained fairly static around 100 but population has risen and cars have got safer etc. Never will be zero... purely revenue raising on straight roads in low speed zones. Should be blackspot only.