Help Please

[mr_rbman]

Before i start this is an evo 7 we are talking about.

I searched under 'starter motor' but had no luck finding what i was after.

Anyway to cut a long story short i had an alarm/immobiliser fitted, while my missus was driving it home alone she stopped at the servo and when she went to start the car again she basically got nothing (just the slight cranking sound) with a little bit of smoke coming from under the dash.

It appers as though something has shorted which blew the ignition fuse as when i got there and tried to start the car we weren't even getting the cranking, dash lights etc. Now naturally I was peaking as it would appear the alarm install has caused this but after finally getting the alarm guy out he disconnected the alarm entirely, we were now getting dash lights etc but the car still wouldn't start.

It now appeared as though it was the starter motor!?!?! So to hopefully prove this we jump started the car which worked proving it was the starter motor but being the sceptic i am i was still thinking to myself this is too much of a coincidence?

Basically i'm just after confirmation from you guys that it is the starter motor and that the faulty alarm install was just a coincidence or is there something else that could've happened to be giving me this grief?

Cheers in

advance!

[mr_rbman]

bit of an update.

put the battery on charge last night just to make sure thats not the problem, put that back in once it was reading 14.5v on the charger while being charged.

I then tried cranking it again and still got nothing, i tried this a couple of times and ended up blowing/melting the ignition fuse again that went originally, the alarm guy had replaced that 40amp fuse with a 50 amp fuse and it still went, this now to me is pointining more and more to the starter circuit relay and something there shorting?!?!?, keeping in mind that I am able to roll start the car though.

[turbo_brian]

It now appeared as though it was the starter motor!?!?! So to hopefully prove this we jump started the car which worked proving it was the starter motor but being the sceptic i am i was still thinking to myself this is too much of a coincidence?

If the car started with a Jump-start, the Startmotor WORKED.

Now, having said that, you could have a starter like I had, it would sometimes start, sometimes not, and would need a thumping from a long metal pole.

Turned out the Starter solenoid was on the way out, and was sticky. Bought a 2nd hand starter, reconditioned it, fitted it, and it was like an explosion every time I turned the key.

B.

[Kinks]

he said a roll start not a jump start.

Sounds to me like your starter motor has fried. This would be pure coincidence, UNLESS the alarm guy has cocked it up and when you started the car the starter solenoid stayed engaged and when that happens the starter motor spins with the engine the whole time. It is not designed to do thisand will overheat in short order.

I'd be taking it to an auto electrician to get it sorted, ask him if the alarm install could have caused it. It may just be bad luck though.

[turbo_brian]

he said a roll start not a jump start.

Re-read my direct quote from the original poster, particularly the part on the first line where it says "I jump started the car and it worked".

I agree though, take the car to an auto sparky while it's still startable and get it checked.

B.

[Kinks]

oops, my bad

[Jmaac]

Try giving this a shot, no guarantees

Turn key so dash lights are on (sounds like the immobiliser has successfully been removed from the coil/ign circuit). Follow positive cable from battery to starter motor. There are two nuts separated by a piece of metal. Short the two nuts with a spanner or shifter and the starter should crank and start the car. If it doesnt, then your starters fried. If it does, theres a short in the smotor circuit (similar to how a kill switch works w/ coil) created by the alarm install/removal. It appears the starter circuit is earthing to the chassis, one of the only peripherals large enough to supply a killer current to the engine fuse. If it is the alarm, follow all the smaller wires around (unless you have a mmeter) and find where the other wires have been piggybacked into the circuit (usually clean black wires with a number written on them in white) or where they have been removed from. Remove these or tape up any exposed wires accordingly. have fun