Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

Hey guys some of you may no me from this forum i've been building my GTS skyline for a while now. originally non-turbo, now with rb25det and lots of bolt-ons etc i was aiming for 300hp atw.

So far mods are:

KKR480 Turbo, Otomoto Dump Pipe, Nismo Stainless Front pipe, 3" stainless cat-back, Nismo 740cc injectors, nismo front strut brace, apexi dual pannel D1 forced pod filter, apexi turbo timer, apexi PFC, greddy intake manifold, greddy TB adaptor, greddy typre RS bov, greddy oil catch can, HKS wiring harness, JJR boost controller, Racetech Boost gauge, Hybrid FMIC, walbro intake 500hp pump.

now i had the car tuned yesterday and it looks as if i achieved 192.6kw at the fly i think? the dyno graph is included in the post!

It is running 10psi on the 'street type' actualator provided with the turbo charger. info is here: http://www.otomoto.com.au/kkr/KKR480.html

let me know what you guys think of it how it looks, any comments on it and possibly what i should do to achieve my figure!! The garage recommended a EBC, to up the boost and to bring it on earlier. Think this will help alot?

Cheers guys, Hame! :D

post-36645-1228975841_thumb.jpg

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/248563-the-road-to-300hp-atw/
Share on other sites

first of all congrats on seeing such a project through :down:

looks like yea flywheel kw so whats that translate in rwkw- about 20% off? that would make it about 155rwkw which is pretty much stock rb25det power :D

im not really familliar with the kkr's but it looks like your have the support systems to push boost a little higher safely, but you and your mech will know its limits.

it will prob take a few more computer tweaks and dyno runs to iron everything out, but your on the right path i reckon, best of luck dude

I'd be getting it tuned for at least 15-16psi then going from there...

Get a full exhaust... then you should have all the supporting mods to get some power... also not sure on KKR's what HP figure's are they rated to...

192RWKW is pretty low for an aftermarket turbo ect ect

I and many other have made that on the stock turbo.

Seeing how you have all the supporting mods i would increase boost to about 16-18psi.

I dont see why 230-240 couldnt be achieved.

EDIT: Please say you have an aftermarket ECU.

not sure on KKR's what HP figure's are they rated to...

my understanding is that a kkr480 refers to 480hp or 355kw (~300rwkw)

and kkr430, 430hp or 318kw (~260rwkw). i could be wrong. id be impressed if a kkr430 made 260rwkw.

congrats on the project but as for the power not so good for the mods u hav my car made that power on stock turbo running 11-12psi and it was 37degrees!! so i would def be buying ebc and crank the boost up to round 16psi then u will see some decent power. goodluck jarad

yeh u need to bump it up to around 18-20psi to see anything exciting out of these turbos lol

they r cheap they do last but dont produce the figures or torque u would like haha..

good luck with it

just a quick note once u start winding boost into it plus having a free flowing exhaust no cat etc u will run into serious boost problems

reason i had to run 50mm ext gate.

thanks for the comments guys really appreciate it, i am a little dissapointed with the results.

to answer some of the questions directed at me:

1. i do already have a full exhaust system

2. yes i do have an aftermarket ecu (apexi power FC)

3. i pretty sure the flow rate on the kk4480 is 480hp.

okay so basically wind up the boost?! i have a manual (JJR bleed type) boost controller sitting in my garage. i

1. if i fitted this up and got it running 16psi would i see a good power increase?

2. would it REALLY effect the tune?

3. if i look into an ebc what should i get? (i have looked at the boost controll kit that comes with the PFC)??

Cheers hame!

If you increase the boost you will need a retune.

So enjoy the car for a bit, when you get bored of the power go to your tuners and get the boost controller installed + a retune.

As for EBC the Profec B 2 is the best bang for your buck.

ahh bugger wish i had thought of this before i had got the tune! ah well cant win them all it a learning curve! it has been a long road and i guess at the end of the day im happy as i built her at home with no prior knowledge! thanks NYTSKY for the info i'll look into the profec B 2.

Why in hell is the operator using flywheel KW?? i own the same dyno and have never used this feature....

your figure seems pretty low mostly because of boost, you should be able to safely run 16psi all day, ive done a few NA+t's pushing mid 200's and they often see track days...

moring guys, thanks for the comments i was hoping it was atw i mean if it wasn't that is basically stock power!? just dosen't make sense! it is not a NA+t. it is the full rb25det engine conversion. So any more ideas? can i just bump up the boost with a manual controller without a tune?

JUST: asked tuner on phone he said that it is ATW not at the fly like the dyno grpah suggests!

Edited by H@ME

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • Also, I logged some data from the ECU for each session (mostly oil pressures and various temps, but also speed, revs etc, can't believe I forgot accelerator position). The Ecutek data loads nicely to datazap, I got good data from sessions 2, 3 and 4: https://datazap.me/u/duncanhandleyhgeconsultingcomau/250813-wakefield-session-2?log=0&data=7 https://datazap.me/u/duncanhandleyhgeconsultingcomau/250813-wakefield-session-3?log=0&data=6 https://datazap.me/u/duncanhandleyhgeconsultingcomau/250813-wakefield-session-4?log=0&data=6 Each session is cut into 3 files but loaded together, you can change between them in the top left. As the test sessions are mostly about the car, not me, I basically start by checking the oil pressure (good, or at least consistent all day). These have an electrically controlled oil pump which targets 25psi(!) at low load and 50 at high. I'm running a much thicker oil than recommended by nissan (they said 0w20, I'm running 10w40) so its a little higher. The main thing is that it doesn't drop too far, eg in the long left hand fish hook, or under brakes so I know I'm not getting oil surge. Good start. Then Oil and Coolant temp, plus intercooler and intake temps, like this: Keeping in mind ambient was about 5o at session 2, I'd say the oil temp is good. The coolant temp as OK but a big worry for hot days (it was getting to 110 back in Feb when it was 35o) so I need to keep addressing that. The water to air intercooler is working totally backwards where we get 5o air in the intake, squish/warm it in the turbos (unknown temp) then run it through the intercoolers which are say 65o max in this case, then the result is 20o air into the engine......the day was too atypical to draw a conclusion on that I think, in the united states of freedom they do a lot of upsizing the intercooler and heat exchanger cores to get those temps down but they were OK this time. The other interesting (but not concerning) part for me was the turbo speed vs boost graph: I circled an example from the main straight. With the tune boost peaks at around 18psi but it deliberately drops to about 14psi at redline because the turbos are tiny - they choke at high revs and just create more heat than power if you run them hard all the way. But you can also see the turbo speed at the same time; it raises from about 180,000rpm to 210,000rpm which the boost falls....imagine the turbine speed if they held 18psi to redline. The wastegates are electrically controlled so there is a heap of logic about boost target, actual boost, delta etc etc but it all seems to work well
    • hahah when youtube subscribers are faster than my updates here. Yes some vid from the day is up, here:  Note that as with all track day videos it is boring watching after the bloopers at the start.  The off was a genuine surprise to me, I've literally done a thousand laps around the place and I've never had instability there; basically it rolled into oversteer, slipped, gripped and spat me out. On the way off I mowed down one of the instructor's cones and it sat there all day looking at me with accusing cone eyes as I drove past. 1:13:20 was my fastest lap, and it was in the second session, 3rd lap.  It (or me!) got slower throughout the day as it got hotter.      
    • It sounds like you want what the Toyota Landcruisers have for their roof racks. Wanna know what you end up with? Rust holes in the roof, and water everywhere...
    • Discovered today that if I select reverse first and take my foot off the brake, then select drive, the drive indicator light works and so does the tiptronic gear indicator. 
    • Ok so after much research and talking with knowledgeable people I've got my turbo conversion done and it's all running great other than 1 small issue.  Car has remained auto with the na auto and tcm, I've used a stagea ecu with. NIstune board and everything is great other than my gear selection on the dash. It illuminates park, reverse, neutral, 3rd and 2nd. But nothing drive or what gear your in when you pop it into tiptronic.  I'm sure there is maybe 1 wire in the ecu plug I need to move to rectify this. Does anyone here have any ideas?   Cheers guys
×
×
  • Create New...