Guilt-toy Installs Vipec V44 Plug In.. & Base Tuned

[SECURITY]

just picked up my vi-pec plug in board and a boost controller solenoid.

if you go with the vi-pec solenoids you'll need to get some 1/8th BSP hose end fittings from somewhere like autobarn or auto-pro etc.

what i noticed was the solenoids looked very similiar to my profec b spec 2 solenoids, i asked scott from insight motorsports about this and he said that you could use a profec solenoid as it is pretty much the same thing, you just need to cut the loom off and wire it in.

[GTR1993]

got a pic? Its probably just a mac valve.

[BoostedBarge]

The Vi-pec boost solenoid is a Mac valve. I'm running one in my car.

[Swiper the Fox]

got a pic? Its probably just a mac valve.

confirmation...yes its a 3 port mac valve

[SirRacer]

How do these things rated compared to some of the more expensive solinoids from the likes of HKS etc?

My Gizzmo controller seems to use one of these also.

Edited January 29, 2009 by SirRacer

[gazza750]

Id be interested to see whether anyone has bothered to run the boost controller that comes with these computers. The guy whos retuning my car was part of the development team of these new ecu's and said they are incredibly good.

Wouldnt mind hearing some other opinions as naturally he is a tad bias!

Cheers

i am running the boost controller built into the board through the stock GTR solenoid and it works perfectly

well at least it was til i blew big end bearing and pulled car off road to rebuild

[Scooby]

i am running the boost controller built into the board through the stock GTR solenoid and it works perfectly

well at least it was til i blew big end bearing and pulled car off road to rebuild

Ray seems to think its possible so I'm going with the stock GTR solenoid.

[Swiper the Fox]

Ray seems to think its possible so I'm going with the stock GTR solenoid.

stock GTR solinoid works fine.

[SECURITY]

it looks exactly like this, and as paul described. it looks exactly like the profec valve.

[BoostdR]

So in comparison to a SM4, what is the outcome?

What is the X,Y resolution of the maps.. I have had much luck finding that out.

[TiTAN]

Taken from the help file with the vipec software.

The number and spacing of the cells in the Table is completely user adjustable. Rows/columns may be inserted or removed where desired by right clicking in the desired place on the labels of the RPM Axis or Load Axis (ie right click on the RPM values to insert a new RPM column). This flexibility allows fine spacing in areas where high resolution/accuracy is required and coarse spacing in less critical areas. The maximum number of RPM columns is 22, while the maximum number of Load rows is 20. When adding a new row or column, the new row/columns cell values will be interpolated between the values in the rows/columns which it was inserted between.

[Swiper the Fox]

Taken from the help file with the vipec software.

The number and spacing of the cells in the Table is completely user adjustable. Rows/columns may be inserted or removed where desired by right clicking in the desired place on the labels of the RPM Axis or Load Axis (ie right click on the RPM values to insert a new RPM column). This flexibility allows fine spacing in areas where high resolution/accuracy is required and coarse spacing in less critical areas. The maximum number of RPM columns is 22, while the maximum number of Load rows is 20. When adding a new row or column, the new row/columns cell values will be interpolated between the values in the rows/columns which it was inserted between.

440 maximum load points in each map

[BoostdR]

And Autronic has 18load, 32rpm. Does that sound correct?

So 576 to 440 points

[CHA54]

And Autronic has 18load, 32rpm. Does that sound correct?

So 576 to 440 points

Yep, but you must have a LOT of time on your hands if you intend to try and tune all of those cells...

The interpolation works very well on both ECU's so you dont need anywhere near that amount of cells in reality if you're only using a revlimit around the 8000rpm region.

I own both an Autronic SM4 and a Vipec V88 and I'm not using the full resolution on either ECU.

Edited February 2, 2009 by CHA54

[BoostdR]

Roger that, I agree. I guess for an engine running to 15,000 rpm the extra points may be more useful.

The reason I ask is I was very close to purchasing an SM4 @ $2100(trade price) but really like the idea of a plugin ecu, especially in the std casing. As far a I can tell, all I need is a knock amp to gain all the features I could possiblely need for my motor.

Is there any other functions apart from increased resolution that the autronic has over the Vi-Pec? or visa versa?

Is the cost of the RB26 plugin $1650? or more expensive since it has a built-in MAP sensor?

[GTR1993]

I am the same, i have a autronic in another car and its awesome, i want to try the vipec but i HATE being burnt by new products, seem to stick with the known good now.

but it seems good and im getting OVER pfc missfire.

Edited February 2, 2009 by GTR1993

[Swiper the Fox]

Roger that, I agree. I guess for an engine running to 15,000 rpm the extra points may be more useful.

The reason I ask is I was very close to purchasing an SM4 @ $2100(trade price) but really like the idea of a plugin ecu, especially in the std casing. As far a I can tell, all I need is a knock amp to gain all the features I could possiblely need for my motor.

Is there any other functions apart from increased resolution that the autronic has over the Vi-Pec? or visa versa?

Is the cost of the RB26 plugin $1650? or more expensive since it has a built-in MAP sensor?

Just went up...they are now $1760 inc gst.

[STATUS]

Yep, but you must have a LOT of time on your hands if you intend to try and tune all of those cells...

The interpolation works very well on both ECU's so you dont need anywhere near that amount of cells in reality if you're only using a revlimit around the 8000rpm region.

I own both an Autronic SM4 and a Vipec V88 and I'm not using the full resolution on either ECU.

yeah but its nice to condense the resolution near peak boost torque areas or where fast increase in boost and rpm occur to get a nice fuel and ign curve etc. Nothing worse than having big steps and relying on interpolation on big hp cars.

Had a tubbed pro street car making 700rwhp in last week with a "?????" ecu and the resolution was a real issue.... lazy high nine 1/4's on street rubber but i know it could make more power, run quicker, be more driveable (as its a pro street car) and use far less fuel with a different ecu.

Edited February 2, 2009 by URAS

[BoostdR]

Just went up...they are now $1760 inc gst.

Just got a quote yesturday for $1663 inc +$20 to upgrade to a 5bars MAP and $280 for a knock amp

[Swiper the Fox]

Just got a quote yesturday for $1663 inc +$20 to upgrade to a 5bars MAP and $280 for a knock amp

must be old stock as all new stock ordered after the 1/2/09 is under the new pricing.

grab it while its cheap!