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Hi Guys, I am having an intermittent problem with my 99 Stagea RS. Every now and again when I start the car the engine light, slip light and traction control light all come one and the cars runs really rough. Turning the car off and starting it again sometimes fixes it, mostly doesn't though. It only happens about 50% of the time and the rest of the time it's perfect. I have had it at Mercury Motorsport (seeing as Andrew Chapman isn't around anymore) and as you would expect it was running perfectly then. I am hoping i can borrow a consult cable off someone here in Brisbane so I can plug my laptop in with the ECUtalk software when it does it and check if it throws any error codes, then I can tell the mechanic what to check. Does anyone have one up here and want to help me out?

Dean

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Hi Guys, I am having an intermittent problem with my 99 Stagea RS. Every now and again when I start the car the engine light, slip light and traction control light all come one and the cars runs really rough. Turning the car off and starting it again sometimes fixes it, mostly doesn't though. It only happens about 50% of the time and the rest of the time it's perfect. I have had it at Mercury Motorsport (seeing as Andrew Chapman isn't around anymore) and as you would expect it was running perfectly then. I am hoping i can borrow a consult cable off someone here in Brisbane so I can plug my laptop in with the ECUtalk software when it does it and check if it throws any error codes, then I can tell the mechanic what to check. Does anyone have one up here and want to help me out?

Dean

Hey Deano, the paperclip method works fine for extracting codes. Saves trying to hunt around for a consult cable.

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Ex...p;hl=paper+clip

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Hey Deano, the paperclip method works fine for extracting codes. Saves trying to hunt around for a consult cable.

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Ex...p;hl=paper+clip

Thanks, paper clip method works really well - first got 12 (maf) and nothing else. Cleaned afm with brake cleaner, did test again then got 21 (ignition), tried again, 21, tried again, 21, tried again, 55 (wtf!), tried again, 21. Can anyone tell me what to do now? The car sometimes does not start, makes an electrical clickety click noise, starter motor? Hitting it with the tyre iron seems to get it to start (or it could be coincidence).

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i dont know what your talking about but ....

mate had the same problem with his Saab (besides the fact he owns one) would start then it would. spent 3k on stuff that needed to be replace but wasnt the problem.

some kind of wire lost connection but trying to turn it over the movments knock it to contact and it fired up. just food for thought if it has anything to do with what your talking about

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Thanks, paper clip method works really well - first got 12 (maf) and nothing else. Cleaned afm with brake cleaner, did test again then got 21 (ignition), tried again, 21, tried again, 21, tried again, 55 (wtf!), tried again, 21. Can anyone tell me what to do now? The car sometimes does not start, makes an electrical clickety click noise, starter motor? Hitting it with the tyre iron seems to get it to start (or it could be coincidence).

Get your hands on VL starter motor - it sounds like the armateur is "poling"

What happens is, the bushes at either end flog out over time, and reach a point where, when charge is applied, the shaft kicks diagonal and jams (henc belting it sometimes knocks it loose and allows it to start spinning) By the time this has happened, usually the brushes etc will be stuffed as well so replace/rebuild is the only option

(this would show up on the consult as an ign problem because it overcooks the relay)

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Get your hands on VL starter motor - it sounds like the armateur is "poling"

What happens is, the bushes at either end flog out over time, and reach a point where, when charge is applied, the shaft kicks diagonal and jams (henc belting it sometimes knocks it loose and allows it to start spinning) By the time this has happened, usually the brushes etc will be stuffed as well so replace/rebuild is the only option

(this would show up on the consult as an ign problem because it overcooks the relay)

Thank you Stinky Rooster, i'll look into it. Any idea on the rough running thing? Wait for it...... coils? Plugs were replaced recently so probably not that, also it was having this problem before the plugs were changed, albeit far less frequently.

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