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hahahahahaha you get funnier with each post Daniel.

give up pal.

I aim to please.

You southerners always say give up but you have not really provided any proof that I am incorrect other than to say you have a mate in marketing who says it's an old trick. Gee I must be wrong if he said that.

I spoke , in person, to a rep from the company and then a couple of hours ago I spoke on the phone to another one. I asked if the injectors were just an off the shelf Denso item. He said absolutely not!. He said again that they were made by Denso to their specs. I asked him to put something in writing so I could show you but he told me not to waste my time with wankers and he doesn't care if you don't want their injector because of it. He said they have nothing to prove or gain by doing such a thing.

So this is an apology to you if he is lying to my face and if the guy in the states is lying to me over the phone. I am sorry if they are lying. But until you can PROVE that I am incorrect and they are lying to me, then why don't YOU give up and stop giving people misleading information. At least my comments have foundation to them.

Ferrari pal vrrom vrrom

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Suprised some over zealous god moderator hasn’t closed this shit down.

I believe it would be important to reveal the outcome of my investigation. I will wait to hear what Denso have to say. I think it is important information that everyone can benefit from. I'm not here to sling rocks at Dirt, I just want proof when someone says I'm wrong.

Umm from a third person viewing this all i have seen so far is:

3lit3 32 made some phone calls to some what substanuate his claim that these items are made by Denso to a cetain spec as specified by Power Enterprise.

Dirt Garage has said this is crap and PE only make the packaging for this, but not been able to back it up with any more proof.

I think the person asking the question has the information that yse they are a quality injector, now he needs to make a decision if he wants these instead of nismo ones, unless someone else has some proof to provide.

I aim to please.

You southerners always say give up but you have not really provided any proof that I am incorrect other than to say you have a mate in marketing who says it's an old trick. Gee I must be wrong if he said that.

I spoke , in person, to a rep from the company and then a couple of hours ago I spoke on the phone to another one. I asked if the injectors were just an off the shelf Denso item. He said absolutely not!. He said again that they were made by Denso to their specs. I asked him to put something in writing so I could show you but he told me not to waste my time with wankers and he doesn't care if you don't want their injector because of it. He said they have nothing to prove or gain by doing such a thing.

So this is an apology to you if he is lying to my face and if the guy in the states is lying to me over the phone. I am sorry if they are lying. But until you can PROVE that I am incorrect and they are lying to me, then why don't YOU give up and stop giving people misleading information. At least my comments have foundation to them.

he was reluctant to give you anything in writing because they know its all marketing crap...nothing more. He had everything to prove by releasing the information, he could have shown how their product is different/superior to everyone elses...but he chose not to. Actual proof that your product is superior in performance is a marketing bonanza...thats everything to gain from a profit point of view and would give them a hand over their competition. Instead he chose to be mature and call someone a wanker. Dan c'mon you must be able to smell a rat? Im not e-battleing with you over it...im over it. Ill order an injector and test them...i dont need to ask for a line off some PR guy on the phone etc.

you have your opinion and i have mine.

be friends shake hands and lets move it on ok.

its nice to be nice :happy:

Edited by DiRTgarage
Ferrari pal vrrom vrrom

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Suprised some over zealous god moderator hasn’t closed this shit down.

Now why would i close it down Josh?

You QLD'ers always provide solid entertainment no matter what section its in.

lol e-battle!

so does anyone have a price comparison on the pwr items vs sard?

It often depends on the supplier, if you check across nengun, greenline and various other places ive found sometimes one place has a better price than the other so it pays to shop around before buying

At the end of the day if denso are supplying an injector to sard and it has the same P/N as an injector supplied to PE then it's the same injector.

If they've changed it it'll have a different p/n

Someone make with the part numbers.

make sure you get the plugs with them as they are not the same as sards :)

can make sard plugs work if you cut off some lugs

used 700 pe's on a customers r34 gtr with no probs get a replacement connector

however turned in to nightmare

Whoa, holy shit?!?

If I understand correctly, you mean 700cc PEs into R34 GTR did not turn out well?? Can you please elaborate? Or PM me? I am due to get them installed tomorrow!

Thanks.

At the end of the day if denso are supplying an injector to sard and it has the same P/N as an injector supplied to PE then it's the same injector.

If they've changed it it'll have a different p/n

Someone make with the part numbers.

precisely Dave.

the part numbers are identical

I think the person asking the question has the information that yes they are a quality injector, now he needs to make a decision if he wants these instead of nismo ones, unless someone else has some proof to provide.

Thank you.

Now why would i close it down Josh?

You QLD'ers always provide solid entertainment no matter what section its in.

What gave you the idea I meant you, Ash? There are two other moderators for this section. One I know for a fact dislikes my online persona a lot more then you.

Of course we would provide solid entertainment. It's the heat you see.

"make sure you get the plugs with them as they are not the same as sards

can make sard plugs work if you cut off some lugs

used 700 pe's on a customers r34 gtr with no probs getting a replacement connector

however turned in to nightmare"

errr?

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