R33 GTST vs S14/S15 vs 180 vs 300zx

[supra]

Jim X

I just want to know the stock spec because it kind of give an idea about the potential that car can give. I am a new bie, sorry by the way. wont it be better to buy a car with better factory spec and then mod it. it's a whole different story once it's mod. i know that. that's why i wanted to know who has the guts when it was born.

[JimX]

Originally posted by supra

Jim X

I just want to know the stock spec because it kind of give an idea about the potential that car can give. I am a new bie, sorry by the way. wont it be better to buy a car with better factory spec and then mod it. it's a whole different story once it's mod. i know that. that's why i wanted to know who has the guts when it was born.

Well, I can agree with the sentiment I guess. But you have to look at the overall picture, especially if you want to mod the car. For example, mildly modded WRX's and Pulsar GTiR's blow gearboxes all over the place, but the only turbo Skylines that blow boxes are cranking out over 600-700hp. That's GTR or GTS-t. I don't think the Silvia's box is that tough (but I'm not sure).

I would just say that all the cars you mentioned are close enough in performance for it to be not a deciding factor in what you want. Look at other things such as styling, practicality (rear seat and boot space), how much you want to stand out from the crowd (or like me, how much you want to blend in), etc. Also keep in mind the gearbox, because it is often the case that buying a stronger box may cost more than an engine rebuild.

[samboR34]

definetly the s15 i raced one once and i just beat it but it was fast.

[Gerby]

Depending on where you look you will find many different 'stock quater mile times'. They simply vary so much, but from looking at a number of different sites, what I have below seems about right to me.

Generally speaking though, the 300zx is usually low 14's high 13's, with the r33 getting low to mid 14's. The 180 generally gets mid 14's and both the s14 and s15 usually get about mid to high 14's.

‘About the only thing that you could say is "better" about some is that the lighter ones (180SX, Silvia) will get more bang per buck from performance mods, because of lesser weight. The 300ZX being the heaviest obviously gets the least value from its mods, with the Skylines somewhere in the middle’

Yes, this is true but you are not factoring in engine size. Generally speaking a 2.5lt engine will produce more power per mod than a 2.0lt. So even though 300zx, skylines etc. are heavier than s13’s they would produce more power per mod and to an extent that would balance out the weight difference. The lighter car might still have the advantage, but it is more complicated than just weight…

Even if an s13 does respond better to mods than a 300zx, if you go mod for mod, it will take a lot of money for the s13 to catch the 300zx. So yeah, it may have better potential if you want to spend a lot of money, but most people do not modify their cars to those extremes. If you just go with the normal basic bolt ons the 300zx will remain faster.

Also, of course a 200sx is going to be more reliable than a r32. Think about it… a basically brand new car vs a car that will be reaching its 15th birthday soon. No matter how well the gtr was made, 10-15 years of thrashing will have a very large effect on a car.

[kr1sh]

so there u have it

300 zx is the answer

[giz01]

std auto 300zx would be my bet! they also the fastest for the least amount of money spent. Mates z dropped like 1/2 a second over the 1/4 just from hks pod filter, I think it may have made a little more boost with the filter as well? cat back exhaust, filter & 14psi it ran 12.8@104mph @ willowbank which is a damn site faster than any similar modded line or 200.

[Guest INASNT]

I still dont think the 300zx would win, but even if it did, the zx would be at the mechanics more often cause of all the problems they have 1 being overheating problems and that they are a bitch to work on.

[giz01]

The overheating problems that everybody talks about with the 300zx's is only because of people that don't maintain there car, the Z isn't any worse than any other unmaintained car out there.

People remember imports are not new cars generally & the japanese don't always maintain them like they should. I know of 3 TT 300zx's around my area that haven't had any overheating problems because they get the correct servicing!