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When replacing my turbo, what gaskets do I need?

I'm thinking:

Manifold-> turbo gasket

Turbo->dump gasket

Oil return gasket?

Am I right that the oil feed doesn't need one?

Manifold-> turbo gasket

Turbo->dump gasket

These. Althought they are fairly sturdy gaskets and if they are in good nick you might be able to re-use your current ones.

Oil return gasket?

Should just be able to remove the oil return hose so shouldn't need a new gasket here.

Am I right that the oil feed doesn't need one?

You should replace all the banjo bolt washers on the oil feed/water feed/water return. That said, a lot of people probably don't bother, but they are not very expensive so I would.

Just take the banjo bolts to enzed or something and ask for banjo washers to suit.

What exactly IS a banjo bolt?

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There will be one on each end of you oil feed line, water feed line, and water return line. So 6 banjo fittings, needing a total of 12 washers. The sizes will vary, (some will be the same some different) so you will need to work out the sizes you need when you pull it off and then take them in and say "I need 4 of these ones, 8 of these ones..." etc.)

The oil return line is just a normal clamed hose. I can't remember 100% but I think the gasket you are talking about for that one is where the hose fitting connects to either the block or the turbo. But you don't need to undo it there, just undo one of the hose clamps and take the hose off.

EDIT: That picture is a little misleading, the washers are not actually copper washers but 'banjo washers'. According to the dude at Enzed when I went anyway...

Edited by Smity42

Ok so I -might- be able to re-use those washers, depending on how they look when they come out?

Should I drop my oil before I do this? Or will it just be a small amount of oil that comes out of the feed?

I should drop my coolant though, yes?

Ok so I -might- be able to re-use those washers, depending on how they look when they come out?

Should I drop my oil before I do this? Or will it just be a small amount of oil that comes out of the feed?

I should drop my coolant though, yes?

You are NOT supposed to re-use the washers. They crush when you tighten the bolt and that is how they seal. Once crushed you are not meant to re-use them.

I think some people do though, but its a bit dodgy, and you may end up with leaks.

It might only be 31 owners that re-use them...

Should be no need to drop the oil, just let the car sit for a while so that most of it drains back to the sump before you do it. You may spill a small amount but nothing much.

Water... Can't remember. You will probably lose a fair bit of it so put a drain tin down, but theres probably no need to drain it entirely. Just fill it back up and bleed it when you're finished.

Been shut for a while for the airport link work. Maybe it was only through certain hours...

Did not know that. Must only be certain hours...

The oil return line is just a normal clamed hose. I can't remember 100% but I think the gasket you are talking about for that one is where the hose fitting connects to either the block or the turbo. But you don't need to undo it there, just undo one of the hose clamps and take the hose off.

I meant on the turbo where the oil return goes in (i think thats what it is, not sure) there's like a flat surface area around the hole - looks like it needs a gasket.

Burson have a turbo gasket kit with 2 metal gaskets and 'about' 4 cork ones for $50. No washers.

What's the enzed place you mentioned?

Edited by mosquitocoils

I meant on the turbo where the oil return goes in (i think thats what it is, not sure) there's like a flat surface area around the hole - looks like it needs a gasket.

Ahh... if there is something there that you have to transfer from your old turbo to your new that needs a gasket, then yeah you will need that.

Burson have a turbo gasket kit with 2 metal gaskets and 'about' 4 cork ones for $50. No washers.

NFI what those cork ones would be. Pics?

2 metal ones would me manifold-turbo and turbo-dump I reckon.

What's the enzed place you mentioned?

enzed (http://www.enzed.com.au/) or pirtek (http://www.pirtek.com.au/) or any other hose joint really. I didn't get a mobile guy out, I just went into a store.

been up in the copper today again, brisbane is a sea of activity...

people, cars, trucks everywhere...

seems business is back to normal for the major shopping centers...

hope the people who bought 20 loaf's of bread die eating them, wankers...

Ahh... if there is something there that you have to transfer from your old turbo to your new that needs a gasket, then yeah you will need that.

Yeah I'll just suss out what I need to re-use when I get to it I guess.

NFI what those cork ones would be. Pics?

2 metal ones would me manifold-turbo and turbo-dump I reckon.

Twas over the phone my good sir so no pics, but I was guessing the same as you.

So, good thing no one went to old Baskins last night...

XF and 33s would have gotten across that...

Are we allowed to pick women folk in the mens cricket team? I reckon this Elyse Perry chick bowls better than ANY of the blokes do...

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