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[Seano350GT]

My girlfriends brother is in the mines, they work insane hours and it's not easy work. Sure they get paid insane amounts of money but they also sacrifice everything for the money, imagine having a family and being away from them 2 weeks of the month. It's not for everyone, the mines would be perfect for a bloke that liked to work hard and had no commitments, which is exactly what my girlfriends brother is. But, he does have a $70,000 boat, a 2012 SR5 hilux and a bunch of other toys.

about time it all evened out anyway - sick of seeing people who i know dropped out of school and are as thick of 5 bags of sh*t earning 150k and buying Range Rovers just for shuffling around in the dust at a mine site, while i worked my @ss off at school so i could spend 5 years at uni and have a massive HECS debt and a long climb up the corporate ladder ahead of me........<RANT>

I agree with you on the drop out bags of shit part, i sell 4X4's in Mackay and i speak to a lot of deadshit miners that are around 20 years old and can somehow get approved finance on a $50,000 cruiser ute. It shits me to tears haha.

[t5iv]

But their hourly rate isn't that great when you look at it.

[NORBY]

But their hourly rate isn't that great when you look at it.

Very true, they earn good money for their intelligence but they work long hours in crap conditions.

Plenty of people earn 150k in better conditions through education and hard work

[Seano350GT]

Very true, they earn good money for their intelligence but they work long hours in crap conditions.

Plenty of people earn 150k in better conditions through education and hard work

Agree with this too, but the young guys up here don't care for education. They all assume they will be right and just work in the mines because that's what their daddy's do, both of my parents are teachers that's where i get that comment from.

[t5iv]

Very true, they earn good money for their intelligence but they work long hours in crap conditions.

Plenty of people earn 150k in better conditions through education and hard work

Education isn't enough. Determination, persistence and knowledge are what count.

[NORBY]

Education isn't enough. Determination, persistence and knowledge are what count.

under the right circumstances education = knowledge. But i do agree with you on that.

There is also a large amount of people sitting in tertiary education with no intention of working, they just went to uni to keep mummy and daddy happy. Does my head in!

Although my course is 90% people upskilling or international students so its not so bad

[Tai1or Made]

I make teh pizza.

[SMOKEYV35]

. But, he does have a $70,000 boat, a 2012 SR5 hilux and a bunch of other toys.

I agree with you on the drop out bags of shit part, i sell 4X4's in Mackay and i speak to a lot of deadshit miners that are around 20 years old and can somehow get approved finance on a $50,000 cruiser ute. It shits me to tears haha.

All I hope is that they put some money away because when the gravy train grinds to a halt, they're going to be 20yrs old with a thumping great big debt little in the way of transferable skills. Cheap second hand land cruisers anyone??? Lol

[t5iv]

What goes around comes around. Coal seems to be slowing down at an alarming rate. Oil and gas are picking up steam though. You don't need as many hands on a CSG well though. Should be interesting to see how it pans out.

The people that want to work hard and make it will. That's all it comes down to.

[NORBY]

What goes around comes around. Coal seems to be slowing down at an alarming rate. Oil and gas are picking up steam though. You don't need as many hands on a CSG well though. Should be interesting to see how it pans out.

The people that want to work hard and make it will. That's all it comes down to.

Australia tends to reward right place right time people. I'd imagine that the government would force companies to not lay off people when the coal bubble bursts, it looks bad for them when that happens

[t5iv]

You sure mate? They're currently laying off thousands of people from mining companies. Lots of people are being given the boot.

Right place right time is what is rewarded but if you're switched on and persistent, you'll know where to be and when to be there.

[Seano350GT]

Mines out here aren't slowing down, i've heard they're laying people off to preserve the sites as the price of coal is going down. Therefore, the demand for coal will be higher so they can jack the prices back up.

But in terms of the actual life span of the mines, there is 100's of years left up here. New mines are opening all the time, those guys that are getting laid of work are being pushed to swap mines. Sure they might have a different roster and slightly different pay but it's still work to keep a roof over your head.

[NORBY]

You sure mate? They're currently laying off thousands of people from mining companies. Lots of people are being given the boot.

Right place right time is what is rewarded but if you're switched on and persistent, you'll know where to be and when to be there.

Maybe im out of touch but im not hearing much of it. I just had 2 friends move up to work in the mines and another couple looking at engineering roles over the next few months I guess more of the manual labor jobs must be going rather than mech engineering ones

[SMOKEYV35]

The stuff in the ground is only worth as much as people are willing to pay for it right now. Otherwise they just leave it there. No demand, no high price, no profit margin, no incetive, no jobs.

My comments will seem ironic if you knew who I work for - ill give you a hint - we distribute machines that are big and yellow.

And I can tell you now - the brakes are well and truly ON - we are looking at sales and demand figures that we haven't seen since deep into 2009, and they are free falling. Mining is going to be v quiet, at least for the foreseeable future.

[NORBY]

My comments will seem ironic if you knew who I work for - ill give you a hint - we distribute machines that are big and yellow.

Tonka? haha

[SMOKEYV35]

Ahahahaha - love it.

Yeh pretty much, except that one is about 1:200 scale.

No miners buying their kids tonka trucks anymore

- shts gettin real, yo!

[t5iv]

Well played!

People who are working with Mining companies directly can see the significant slow down. External contracts are being shredded. HUGE cost cutting methods in place. Massive redundancies throughout HQs.

[Seano350GT]

At the moment in Mackay we have this huge $5 million car sale on at the showgrounds, we have new cars from Toyota, Hyundai, Mazda and used cars there. I just went over there to check out what it's like since i'll be working there tomorrow and it's f*cking crazy, heard the funniest story of a customer getting abused by one of the sales people for going to 3 different salespersons asking for different prices. He was told quote "This is the price and if you don't like it you can f*ck off" HAHAH, shits getting ruthless.

I can't wait to get there tomorrow, i'm allowed to sell anything i want even new cars. Gimme dat commission.

[t5iv]

Mate, that's how you have to be sometimes. time is effin* money. Don't waste mine! Move to the next client who will pay

[Seano350GT]

Damn right. I plan on ditching anyone that wants to dick around tomorrow.