411rwhp from stock internals

[N I B]

I think Power FCs are good but the hand controller sucks and its not Australian.

Dyno Dynamics have agreed to run up Pauls GTS to prove the knockers wrong.

[Emre]

Dyno Dynamics can run the car all they want, what is that going to prove...? It may or may not be within the limits of the software used.

Another car that got 339rwhp = 255rwkw on your dyno manages 111mph. On the dyno i use a 200rwkw gts-t will do the same TS.

Until we have a fixed form of measuring power that is used across the country, there is no point in quoting power figures.

[N I B]

Wolf plugins for Skylines is about 1 year old now and was basicly the first in the range. We have things like VLs etc on the market now and the list is growing fast. Sydneykid, please check your facts before posting as you are making a lot of false statements.

[rob77]

Originally posted by Emre

Dyno Dynamics can run the car all they want, what is that going to prove...? It may or may not be within the limits of the software used.

Another car that got 339rwhp = 255rwkw on your dyno manages 111mph. On the dyno i use a 200rwkw gts-t will do the same TS.  

Until we have a fixed form of measuring power that is used across the country, there is no point in quoting power figures.

Yes but you arnt taking into account how bad I am at drag racing On the strip I never can get it right, look at my 60' times I need someone to be sitting in the car coaching me what to be doing and when and how, or I could let someone like rev210 or steve-sst, who know what they are doing, drive the car.

[rev210]

Need me to drive?

no worries rob!

I've actually been in Robs car, it has the power. Rob is a little too kind in shifting gears, something he can get help with I'm sure.

Rob how about giving us the 660 and 1000ft times and speeds, this will hopefully show the issue you had with the power drop.

[N I B]

I think you should not watch tho Rob as it would be like watching your other 1/2 being raped.

[Emre]

I've actually been in Robs car, it has the power.

Being a passanger in a car that's equipped with a Trust turbo like the TD06 may give you the impression that it's fast. Unless he was having a nap on the 1-2 change, a coffee on the 2-3 change and maybe a quickie on the 3-4 change, that 111mph is a good indicator of the power.

He didn't have one run and pack up, he had 5-6 runs, out of which the 111mph was the best. 13.88 is obviously is slow for the mph and can be improved on but i can't see anyone else improving on the mph by more than 1-2mph.

Incidentally, do you have a graph of your dyno run Rob...?

[Cubes]

rev210...

Slap your 205 Simex's on that should do it...

[Steve]

Originally posted by Emre

Dyno Dynamics can run the car all they want, what is that going to prove...? It may or may not be within the limits of the software used.

Another car that got 339rwhp = 255rwkw on your dyno manages 111mph. On the dyno i use a 200rwkw gts-t will do the same TS.  

Until we have a fixed form of measuring power that is used across the country, there is no point in quoting power figures.

ROFL.......so you seriously think a car with a TD06 is going to produce similar power to the stock RB25 turbo?

If you are experienced in drag racing, you would know that drivers can make a massive difference in times, as dozens of other things will too.

If dyno dynamics say the dyno is reading accurately, what better comparison is there for power figures (when using shootout mode)? seriously.

[Steve]

Originally posted by Emre

Being a passanger in a car that's equipped with a Trust turbo like the TD06 may give you the impression that it's fast........

but you are saying that its not? I think you are completely wrong. Trust have been producing these turbos for years and sold thousands of them cos they are only as good as the stocker, but make the car feel faster????

[N I B]

Dyno Dynamic are forcing tough new Dyno procedures so they would not like to hear you comments. A mates car runs 11.4@112mph with 307rwhp on my dyno so a driver can have a big effect on 1/4 performance. Trust products are outstanding and been around for a long time so these comments are pointless.We will get Robs car down the 1/4 fast soon!Rob and Pauls cars are well planned cars built at a low cost and they have every right to be proud of their effort so stop grizzling and do better your self.

[tomj]

"Dyno Dynamic are forcing tough new Dyno procedures so they would not like to hear you comments. "

i heard these procedures have come in after it was found, by DD's own staff that some dynos had been tampered with . I might be wrong so i wont claim it as fact.

[N I B]

Yes this is true and the good thing is they acted fast and i came up clean plus GTSt Vspecs car was tested 5 days ago and after the dyno tests were done.. The new software is going to clean up the market,DD own the new procedures and will take it away from any shop tampering with it.If you think you get a fudged power run please report it even if its from me.I pushed hard to get this thru its just a pitty we can't clean up other brand dynos but they are a minority anyway.Look for Shootout accredited DD dynos Australia wide from now on to be sure you get the facts and then you can compare your car to any car featured in any mag world wide tested this way.

[rob77]

Hopefully we can get it down the 1/4 fast before I **** it up more *sigh* Gonna need a wheel allignment cos over 100km/hr it vibrates and the side skirt is gonna need replacing I think dont think it can be repaired (although they are only $100).

[tomj]

oh, i knew pauls run wasnt under a dogdy dyno, since this all went down a little while ago, when DD technicans came over. i think its commendable of them to clamp down on some people's desire to cheat the numbers for their own personal gain.

[RNS11Z]

Talking bout dodgey drivers, i too am one. With very similar rwhp to rob77 i did a 13.6 @ 113 or 116mph with a 2.7 60ft.

[tomj]

you should blame something else

[Emre]

ROFL.......so you seriously think a car with a TD06 is going to produce similar power to the stock RB25 turbo?

You are still comparing figures taken on different dynos. How do you know a GTS-T with a stock turbo gets 200rwkw on the dyno i use?

TD06-20G can support between 380-420hp at the engine depending on the trim. It is good to see that some can manage this just on 1 bar.

If you are experienced in drag racing, you would know that drivers can make a massive difference in times

No one is looking at the times. His best mph of 111 out of 5-6 runs is a good indication of power unless he was on a leisurely drive.

If dyno dynamics say the dyno is reading accurately, what better comparison is there for power figures (when using shootout mode)? seriously

Time will tell whether the 'shootout mode' is the new form of measuring power. From what i've seen so far, we are gonna get figures similar to the ones taken in US from their DynoJets.

but you are saying that its not? I think you are completely wrong. Trust have been producing these turbos for years and sold thousands of them cos they are only as good as the stocker, but make the car feel faster????

If you are running the TD06 only on 1 bar, it'd be marginally faster than a well set-up stock turbo; however it would feel quite faster than before because of the way it spools up.

Steve-SST,

If you think the TD06 is an outstanding turbo good for you dude. I haven't knocked Pauls's or Rob's cars and efforts, if it came across that way i apologise. I've only been commenting on the power figures quoted cause it seems to be a bit high and at every where i look lately.

EDIT: And don't you worry, as soon as i get of my P's i will start to modify my car as well.

[Steve]

Emre, I think you have proved to aust that you really dont have a clue. Period

[rob77]

Great another skyline driver on P's No wonder the insurance premiums are so ****ed.