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Correction from wasteland: Richmond board meets Tuesday night not tonight.

Who'll go first.... Wallace or Harvey? I'll bet Wallace even though I'm a little surprised he hasn't got results yet at Richmond, he'd done a decent enough job at the Western Bulldogs I thought.

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yeah that's the key cause clearly the Saints are the most in-form team so far this year so I hope they don't blow us away......kicking long to the square does work as we proved on the weekend so why we don't always play like that frustrates me!! Lol, we've got Warren Gary & Lade who can take a good contested mark in a pack not to mention Jezalinko jnr :woot: (what a screamer he took)!!

The saints are doing pretty well, but i think we have a good chance of breaking their winning streak. They havent a good past playing against us at AAMI... We'll see.

I'm bloody excited! first game ill be attending this year, then showdown week after! I'll be coming home with no voice as usual...

that mark WAS an absolute ripper; Logan wasnt it? Pity he missed the goal after! The defence was brilliant as well, that Roughead hardly touched the ball, and the boys did pretty well keeping Franklin off the ball as well

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Correction from wasteland: Richmond board meets Tuesday night not tonight.

Who'll go first.... Wallace or Harvey? I'll bet Wallace even though I'm a little surprised he hasn't got results yet at Richmond, he'd done a decent enough job at the Western Bulldogs I thought.

Wallace has shown that he can at least coach (ie Doggie days) so what does it tell you about the mind set of the players??

Were they all hoping Cousins would do it single handed so therefore no need to have a good pre season??

Or do they suffer from the number 9 stigma (where they finish on the ladder each year - just out of the finals, for those that aren't AFL savvy) which has plagued them for years??

I don't think they should dump Wallace yet....leave it till at least mid season.

On the other hand, Harvey has not yet proven that he can coach and should've stayed as the Bombers assistant coach.

People (Vic & SA media) are looking at how bad Melbourne & Richmond are travelling but the real pretenders are Freo.....they tend to go unnoticed cause they're so far away.

Biggest under achievers for as long as I've been watching footy, and that incudes the dismal Fitzroy era!

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so what does it tell you about the mind set of the players??

the real pretenders are Freo.....they tend to go unnoticed cause they're so far away.

I totally agree, they should be looking at the attitude of the playing group, somehow I think Wallace will take the fall!

Freo are a joke and they've missed opportunities in the last couple years, now those senior players that could play have retired and one has returned to your team.....!

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Yeh i agree, the troubles at Richmond go much deeper than just the coach, he can only tell them how to play, if they don't play to their plans, which im thinking they aren't, it isn't the coaches fault. And you can ask Wallace, he isn't about to start slagging off on his own team. Be interesting to see, when he does leave, what he has to say about the whole club in general.

Freo, Melbourne and Richmond seem to be the ones consistently struggling, Richmond seems to win whenever Richo is in a good mood, Melbourne need all their stars to fire to be able to beat the middle-of-the-table teams, and Freo rely heavily on the Pavellator.

Port are in good form at the moment, Warren Gary playing like he hasn't played in ages, apparently his knees are cherry ripe.

Give Adelaide a couple of years, it seems we have finally learnt how to recruit for once, and picked up/introduced finally some youngsters with genuine ability, Petrenko, Walker and Dangerfield.

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yeah I don't know what it is with your blokes Damo.

They showed they match up with Geelong on occasion but that'll never win you games against a team like that.

Don't think it's a fitness issue cause they normally have pretty disciplined pre-seasons.

Leaves me to 2 possible conclusions:

1). Like many teams, when the pressure gets too much they play panic footy, which is actually unusual for them, so it could be the young kid factor.

or

2). The much talked about zone defence (which is Craig's undoing in most finals) aint working for you.

We showed that when we do kick long to the 50, we have that 50/50 chance to convert......I think you're missing Roo who used to constantly bomb them into 50.

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yeah agreed, we finally have a couple of blokes who can take a grab in the forward 50, Tippet being one, but no-one to deliver. Goodwin needs to take charge of that role, he can kick a mean bomb. We weren't ever going to beat Geelong, and it was a fairly gallant effort to keep up for a bit, but we lack a bit of big game experience i think, another downside of having youngsters.

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I totally agree, they should be looking at the attitude of the playing group, somehow I think Wallace will take the fall!

Freo are a joke and they've missed opportunities in the last couple years, now those senior players that could play have retired and one has returned to your team.....!

how would you like to be Brown or Richo (Tigers)......Pav or Gardiner (Freo)......Robo or Whelan (Demons) and know that you'll never ever see the big stage for the rest of your career.

I thought the whole reason for playing footy is to see the last day in September.......none of them ever will unless they leave & go elsewhere.

Unfortunately age is not on their side.

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yeah that really gets my blood boiling.....what a waste of suspensions.

Don't get me wrong, I love the shirt front and the big bump within 5 metres of the ball and I still think we should play "hard at the man, hard at the ball footy".....but some of those acts were gutless and pointless.

And when they get suspended the whole team suffers.......I'm a bit pissed with Pete Burgoyne at the moment.

At first I thought it was the Carr factor influencing the boys, now that he 's back, but I don't think so now.

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how would you like to be Brown or Richo (Tigers)......Pav or Gardiner (Freo)......Robo or Whelan (Demons) and know that you'll never ever see the big stage for the rest of your career.

I think in Pav's case he wanted to stay at Freo for the $$$$, he had his chance to return to SA with either club.

Crows are also sorely missing Bassett imo and I doubt Rutten is 100% fit. I don't understand why Moran hasn't been picked either when he's proved he can go forward and take a grab.

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as much as Gil is all over the place sometimes, bloke can take a good pack mark up forward, seems to have sorted some of his kicking issues out too. Hes a big lad too, good base to start building some muscle, dont see why he wont get regular games int he future.

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