Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

in melbourne victoria. I am tossing up importing a 2004 4door nissan skyline 350gt sedan (not coupe) with the QV35 engine with a 6 speed or 8 speed transmission or Nissan Elgrand E51 model 2003 with a 5speed tiptronic transmission or e50 with a turbo diesel. My budget is 18k to 22k fully landed and complied. I am looking to do this through a broker with a long pedigree of importing from japan and with a qualified mechanic on the ground who can definitely do a racv/nrma type prepurchase inspection on these cars.

Can anyone assist in the decision of which model to go for taking into account the following below

1. Access to spare parts at a reasonable price in Australia. Which car would be harder or more expensive to source spare parts to do routine servicing eg. oil filter, timing belt, brakes etc..

2. Fuel economy. With petrol predicted to go to $2/L i was wondering if anyone has experience driving these cars and could give a realistic fuel economy figure for them in city driving. Is the turbo diesel much more economical then the petrol elgrande? I know sports cars perform badly in this category but i wanted to know in comparision to the weight of the Elgrande does it do better. As the elgrande is carrying alot of weight

3.Overall chances of getting dudded on a car. I am taking huge risks to import the car directly from japan and I have sought different opinions from different people and have come to the conclusion that the skyline is likely to have been driven harder with street racing and might have been crashed and the crash cleverly concealed then the family oriented car of the elgrande.

4. Build and mechanical quality. Would appreciate if anyone has experienced major faults with their cars after directly importing.

Finally can anyone recommend some major brokers /dealers eg. directimported, carizma who are honest and will not rip me off. I was thinking of using Iron Chef..but it has been 2 weeks and he has not responded to any of my emails.

Thanks All and appreciate you assistance

Regards John

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/273241-honest-broker-with-good-contacts/
Share on other sites

Kristian will properly reply soon but going on your questions and models you are looking at just buy a Commodore or Falcon, V35 8 Speeds have issues, 6 speeds are rare as (I had one my self) and Elgrands are so new you might have issues getting parts and service (depending on were you live).

In regards tp which car is best for parts I'd say probably a V35, though I agree the 8 speeds can be a little expensive when things go wrong since no one knows how to really repair them. I've looked at probably hundreds of V35's and it's very unusual to see anything wrong with at all, they are quite reliable, and there are now enough in the country that people are starting to stock and keep parts. Enough Elgrands are coming in that soon this will also be the case, but it will take longer.

Fuel economy: the Skyline will get marginally better economy than an Elgrand, but they are pretty close. You're looking at abour 8.7km/L for an 8 speed Skyline versus around 8.0 - 8.2km/L for the Elgrand various models. You might drive the Skyline a little harder though :bunny:

Inspections from a qualified mechanic might be tricky, a lot of people here in Japan are very competent at what they do yet only some will have actual professional qualifications. For example inspect vehicles and I'd consider myself to be good at what I do, but I have a nerdy computer science degree behind me, not an apprenticeship. In terms of an RACV style inspection that's pretty unusual but (plug time!) yes, we do that. We have a network of people around Japan (including mechanics) who will go and look at cars, take a couple of hundred photos and provide a written report. Just today I spent about 2 and a half hours going over a Skyline and took about 200 pics for a customer, depending on where the car is located will depend on who we get to do the inspection. I know exactly where you are coming from however I think ultimately you have to realize that there will be some uncertainty (however small) that you won't be able to know everything there is to know about a car, and that's true of wherever you buy it from. For example you have faith in the RACV, they once came and inspected a car which I was personally selling which had one painfully obvious issue (that I'd already told the prospective buyer about) and the RACV guy totally missed it.... the buyer actually asked me if I was sure about it since the RACV guy didn't pick it up. I remember my response even today: "Trust me I know it's broken, *I* broke it!" :)

Which gets me onto chances of getting a dud car: very small I believe. Not only are you talking about relatively new and relatively reliable cars as a whole, but for any vehicle you import if you use someone good then relatively speaking it is a safe process... no more dangerous than buying a car yourself locally in terms of the chances of a car being good or bad.

in melbourne victoria. I am tossing up importing a 2004 4door nissan skyline 350gt sedan (not coupe) with the QV35 engine with a 6 speed or 8 speed transmission or Nissan Elgrand E51 model 2003 with a 5speed tiptronic transmission or e50 with a turbo diesel. My budget is 18k to 22k fully landed and complied. I am looking to do this through a broker with a long pedigree of importing from japan and with a qualified mechanic on the ground who can definitely do a racv/nrma type prepurchase inspection on these cars.

Can anyone assist in the decision of which model to go for taking into account the following below

1. Access to spare parts at a reasonable price in Australia. Which car would be harder or more expensive to source spare parts to do routine servicing eg. oil filter, timing belt, brakes etc..

2. Fuel economy. With petrol predicted to go to $2/L i was wondering if anyone has experience driving these cars and could give a realistic fuel economy figure for them in city driving. Is the turbo diesel much more economical then the petrol elgrande? I know sports cars perform badly in this category but i wanted to know in comparision to the weight of the Elgrande does it do better. As the elgrande is carrying alot of weight

3.Overall chances of getting dudded on a car. I am taking huge risks to import the car directly from japan and I have sought different opinions from different people and have come to the conclusion that the skyline is likely to have been driven harder with street racing and might have been crashed and the crash cleverly concealed then the family oriented car of the elgrande.

4. Build and mechanical quality. Would appreciate if anyone has experienced major faults with their cars after directly importing.

Finally can anyone recommend some major brokers /dealers eg. directimported, carizma who are honest and will not rip me off. I was thinking of using Iron Chef..but it has been 2 weeks and he has not responded to any of my emails.

Thanks All and appreciate you assistance

Regards John

Sorry John, I've had the flu for the past few weeks (non-swine variety) and, because I insist on answering all my emails, I have a backlog of about 300 to get through! :) I think I saw your original email, I rummage back through and send you something today.

in melbourne victoria. I am tossing up importing a 2004 4door nissan skyline 350gt sedan (not coupe) with the QV35 engine with a 6 speed or 8 speed transmission or Nissan Elgrand E51 model 2003 with a 5speed tiptronic transmission or e50 with a turbo diesel. My budget is 18k to 22k fully landed and complied. I am looking to do this through a broker with a long pedigree of importing from japan and with a qualified mechanic on the ground who can definitely do a racv/nrma type prepurchase inspection on these cars.

Can anyone assist in the decision of which model to go for taking into account the following below

1. Access to spare parts at a reasonable price in Australia. Which car would be harder or more expensive to source spare parts to do routine servicing eg. oil filter, timing belt, brakes etc..

2. Fuel economy. With petrol predicted to go to $2/L i was wondering if anyone has experience driving these cars and could give a realistic fuel economy figure for them in city driving. Is the turbo diesel much more economical then the petrol elgrande? I know sports cars perform badly in this category but i wanted to know in comparision to the weight of the Elgrande does it do better. As the elgrande is carrying alot of weight

3.Overall chances of getting dudded on a car. I am taking huge risks to import the car directly from japan and I have sought different opinions from different people and have come to the conclusion that the skyline is likely to have been driven harder with street racing and might have been crashed and the crash cleverly concealed then the family oriented car of the elgrande.

4. Build and mechanical quality. Would appreciate if anyone has experienced major faults with their cars after directly importing.

Finally can anyone recommend some major brokers /dealers eg. directimported, carizma who are honest and will not rip me off. I was thinking of using Iron Chef..but it has been 2 weeks and he has not responded to any of my emails.

Thanks All and appreciate you assistance

Regards John

A good mate of mine imported through Prestige Motorsport.

They seem pretty good and helped him with all the work to get it here etc.

www.prestigemotorsport.com.au

  • 3 weeks later...

Dear John,

There are a handful of good brokers aroundf, jspec, prestige and us aswell. We have have contacts on the ground in Japan to do all these inspections, the owner Jon has worked in Japan doing exporting for several years while we have been importing here for 12 years.

With in your budget, we suggest you forget the E51, especially because the compliance is still very expensive however the E50 or the V35 premium are easily achieveable in your budget. Our guess is youll be able to get something really good for around the 15K mark, and that being fully complied.

Anyway, hope that helps John

Paul

A good mate of mine imported through Prestige Motorsport.

They seem pretty good and helped him with all the work to get it here etc.

www.prestigemotorsport.com.au

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • After my last update, I went ahead with cleaning and restoring the entire fuel system. This included removing the tank and cleaning it with the Beyond Balistics solution, power washing it multiple times, drying it thoroughly, rinsing with IPA, drying again with heat gun and compressed air. Also, cleaning out the lines, fuel rail, and replacing the fuel pump with an OEM-style one. During the cleaning process, I replaced several hoses - including the breather hose on the fuel tank, which turned out to be the cause of the earlier fuel leak. This is what the old fuel filter looked like: Fuel tank before cleaning: Dirty Fuel Tank.mp4   Fuel tank after cleaning (some staining remains): Clean Fuel Tank.mp4 Both the OEM 270cc and new DeatschWerks 550cc injectors were cleaned professionally by a shop. Before reassembling everything, I tested the fuel flow by running the pump output into a container at the fuel filter location - flow looked good. I then fitted the new fuel filter and reassembled the rest of the system. Fuel Flow Test.mp4 Test 1 - 550cc injectors Ran the new fuel pump with its supplied diagonal strainer (different from OEM’s flat strainer) and my 550cc injectors using the same resized-injector map I had successfully used before. At first, it idled roughly and stalled when I applied throttle. Checked the spark plugs and found that they were fouled with carbon (likely from the earlier overly rich running when the injectors were clogged). After cleaning the plugs, the car started fine. However, it would only idle for 30–60 seconds before stalling, and while driving it would feel like a “fuel cut” after a few seconds - though it wouldn’t fully stall. Test 2 – Strainer swap Suspecting the diagonal strainer might not be reaching the tank bottom, I swapped it for the original flat strainer and filled the tank with ~45L of fuel. The issue persisted exactly the same. Test 3 – OEM injectors To eliminate tuning variables, I reinstalled the OEM 270cc injectors and reverted to the original map. Cleaned the spark plugs again just in-case. The stalling and “fuel cut” still remained.   At this stage, I suspect an intermittent power or connection fault at the fuel pump hanger, caused during the cleaning process. This has led me to look into getting Frenchy’s fuel hanger and replacing the unit entirely. TL;DR: Cleaned and restored the fuel system (tank, lines, rail, pump). Tested 550cc injectors with the same resized-injector map as before, but the car stalls at idle and experiences what feels like “fuel cut” after a few seconds of driving. Swapped back to OEM injectors with original map to rule out tuning, but the issue persists. Now suspecting an intermittent power or connection fault at the fuel pump hanger, possibly cause by the cleaning process.  
    • For race cars, this is one part where I find having the roll cage bar having gone through a hole in the floor better than the build it up on a ledge inside... The Merc I help on, the main hoop ends are marked on the car, and the jack is marked... Jack goes under a few inches and lifts one whole side of the car up... Removes that fight for long slim jacks for race car duties!   My biggest issue for the daily drivers I work on, is my jacks don't go high enough. The jacks start out on a few blocks, jack it up, then start a second jack under it on more blocks, and then I can get an axle stand under it. My axle stands are presently in use, and are nearly fully extended. The car is sitting with barely more than a cm of clearance to get the wheel off the studs! Sarah's Kluger is the same, as it has an ungodly amount of droop available in the suspension and a distinct lack of good jacking points!
    • Happy? Yep, my to do list is getting shorter and shorter. Either this light approaching is the end of the tunnel, or I'm about to be hit by a train... Ha ha ha   Also, Duncan isn't that far out of town that you need to make a multi day drive out of it. 😛
    • Sorry I meant that we are building the EH for a client.
    • LOL, when one "money pit" is never enough Noice, and excellent work mate
×
×
  • Create New...