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As above,

Does anyone have any recommendations? I need a large body, oval muffler to quiet down my 3 inch turbo back system. I've heard the X-Force range are pretty good, and quite cost effective. I accept that it probably won't quiet it down to a legal level, i.e under 90db, but i'm sure it might be sutable in the interim.

Basically, I need to pi$$ off the crappy loud cannon on it at the moment, and come up with something a little less "over the top".

Any recommendations are appreciated.

Kind Regards,

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I will have a Magnaflow 3.5 inch oval muffler for sale soon, It is basically new but I am talking it off to replace it with a different one.

I think the part # is 14151 on the Magnaflow website, it has done about 500km, if you are interested let me know

I Have a Kakimoto Oval style cat back (3") ... to quiet for me..lol... came with the car... if someone is willing to swap it with a jap branded aftermarket system i'd be glad to.... but for this topic i have found this system to be quiet and not attract attention (cough cough gutted cat also cough cough)..

Jez.

he is only looking at changing one muffler not the whole system from what i see.

Precisely.

Im looking at the XForce MP02, I hear it will suit my application well. Any opinions?

http://www.bestmufflers.com/Xforce_Exhaust...ms/mufflers.htm

do you have a mid muffler also on your setup?

looking to do the same thing also as mine is 3" all the way through with only a canon and its way to loud.

would putting a oval muffler at the end instead of canon be the best?

or leave the canon and go mid muffler?

or change both?

its just way to loud and droney at the moment

sorry to jump in on your thread... just thought it'd be better than starting another one for pretty much the same thing

do you have a mid muffler also on your setup?

looking to do the same thing also as mine is 3" all the way through with only a canon and its way to loud.

would putting a oval muffler at the end instead of canon be the best?

or leave the canon and go mid muffler?

or change both?

its just way to loud and droney at the moment

sorry to jump in on your thread... just thought it'd be better than starting another one for pretty much the same thing

Not a problem mate, i'm in exactly the same predicament. I'm planning on changing both the muffler and the mid-muffler.

I just bought one of the MP02 mufflers, delivered for $225. I've heard good things about them. That should quiet it down a little. Now just to change the crappy hot-dog into something larger/quieter, and hopefully I should have a system close or under 90db.

yeah seems to be the way to go.

i was actually looking at the magnaflow versions on that site. they're a bit more pricey though.

anyone know if theres a huge difference?

i'll probably change to an oval muffler either single or twin tipped. then if i need more quietness i'll throw a mid muffler in aswell

Edited by stenve
If you're changing both mufflers why not go the whole hog and get a whole catback? That's what I did, to save time and effort cutting and welding again.

I considered that, but I got my cat back pretty cheaply, and it has been custom made to run along the standard exhaust route, for a really stock look, so I guess, for me it will probably be more economical to have the new mufflers welded in. I can understand your logic though bloke, that's for sure.

Lol well I paid $150 for a JASMA compliant twin straight through muffler 5Zigen exhaust to replace my old straight through one (I admit it needed about $20 worth of welding on the front muffler and rear hanger tho), but I can understand if you want something brand new on there.

Would have loved a brand new Kakimoto catback, but $$$$$ was a factor (not to mention a $567 EPA fine which I got AFTER buying the new exhaust!)

I considered that, but I got my cat back pretty cheaply, and it has been custom made to run along the standard exhaust route, for a really stock look, so I guess, for me it will probably be more economical to have the new mufflers welded in. I can understand your logic though bloke, that's for sure.

The pipe between the mufflers is the cheapest bit mate. It's the mufflers that cost $$$. Escpecially if it's mild steel

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