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Hi All

Im not sure if this is the right place to post this , but I would think it would be the most revelant as its advertised as a Skyline for sale and I want the rest of the SAU'ers to be notified and to be careful.

The reason why its under 'possible scam' is because I'm still in negotiations with the seller via email and still trying to gather enough evidence to propose if it is truly a scam and report it to the authorities.

This ad is under the Daily Telegraph, Friday, November 6, 2009. Page 86 under title 'Cars under $10k'

The ad states ' Nissan Skyline 1998, R34 GT-T . VIN 6U90000ER4004970, $6900, 0295803435, [email protected] '

Well I thought WOW r34 for under 7k! This is awesome , but even still I was thinking this is too good to be true!

So I emailed the bloke, here is the trail of emails below :

Trevor Rooney <[email protected]> wrote on 10/11/2009 04:25:38 AM:

> It is stored at DAS http://www.DAS.AutoExpress.com.au.tt!

> The person that wants to see it, must have a reservation first, made

> by me, the owner of the car, and also, he will have to pay for

> packing and unpacking the car, wich is now sealed in a cargo

> container.If someone decides to see it, let me know!

> Also, if by the time you decide to go see the car, someone

> else decides to pay the deposit to AlertPay and book it, than you

> must know I will not waste the oportunity! Remember also you'll have

> 5 days to inspect it anyway...

>

> Let me know your decision

>

> To: [email protected]

> Subject: RE: 1998 Nissan Skyline R34GT-T For Sale

> From: [email protected]

> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 08:33:57 +1100

>

>

> Hi Trevor

>

> Which company is in charge of the shipping and the signing of the

> transfer for the vehicle?

>

> I am very interested, but as you can see I want to make sure

> everything is completely legitimate. Especially since you are

> oversea's and the vehicle is in another state.

>

> Hence why I'd like to request as specific detail as possible.

>

> Thanks

>

> -Thommy La

>

>

>

> [image removed]

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> Trevor Rooney <[email protected]> 06/11/2009 08:01 PM

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> To

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> Thommy >

> cc

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> Subject

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> RE: 1998 Nissan Skyline R34GT-T For Sale

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> I have to let you know that I have prearranged the deal withAlertPay

> http://www.AlertPay.com, so that there will be no need for me to be there!

> You will need to send me your full name, shipping address and

> phone number so I can set up the

> transaction with AlertPay; after that they will contact you with the

> payment details and you will

> make a 2900$ deposit to them; they will secure your money until you

> receive the car!

> In the same day AlertPay will confirm your deposit, shipping

> will start and you will receive a

> tracking number to track your delivery! The car will reach your

> address in about 5 working days,

> after that you will have another 5 days for inspection; if

> unsatisfied with the car you will get a full

> refund from AlertPay, if not, than you'll pay the rest of the balance!

> I gived them legal empowerment to do the Rego transfer in my

> name and they have all the original papers

> to do it!

> let me know your decision

> cheers

>

> To: [email protected]

> Subject: RE: 1998 Nissan Skyline R34GT-T For Sale

> From: [email protected]

> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:15:47 +1100

>

>

> Hi Trevor

>

> I am still interested but this seems rather complicated as you dont

> currently live in Australia.

>

> Since this car is not in my state , I would like as much detailed

> information as possible as you might understand , and if this is

> acceptable , is there any chance of me flying down to inspect the

> car without you there?

>

> Please advise on how you are planning to go about this.

>

>

> Thanks

>

> -Thommy

>

>

> Trevor Rooney <[email protected]> 06/11/2009 03:06 PM

>

> To

>

> Thommy

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> cc

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> Subject

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> RE: 1998 Nissan Skyline R34GT-T For Sale

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>

> Hi there, I am really sorry I haven't been able to answer

> sooner, but I've been busy, I've just moved to England. Don't worry

> though, the car is still there in Australia, I left it at a shipping

> company in Stuart Park, N.T. The price I am asking is 6900$ AU and

> it includes shipping anywhere in Australia. The car has been left to

> me in a will by my uncle, I am not a car's fan, never had one, don't

> even have a license to drive, but I can tell you it runs perfectly,

> it is fully paid, no accidents.

> If you are still interested, than please email me back so I

> can explain how can this be done without me being in Australia!

> Cheers

>

> To: [email protected]

> Subject: Nissan Skyline R34GT-T For Sale

> From: [email protected]

> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:51:48 +1100

>

>

>

>

> Hi

>

> Just wanting more information regarding the Skyline R34 GT-T 1998 .

>

> Can I be sent back some pictures of the car , any panel damages ,

> transmission , KM's etc .

>

>

> Thanks

>

> -Tommy American Express made the following annotations on Thu Nov 05

> 2009 20:52:34

There were a few key points that made me weary throughout the emails.

That he is located oversea's in England and that he moved there recently and his uncle had passed away and left him this car under his will.

He wanted me to transfer the money for a deposit to a site called 'Alertpay' which is another payment processor like Paypal. However he stated that the money will be refunded if unsatisfactory in which I know Alertpay does not do escrow services. That means its up to his discretion to send it back or not.

He sent me a website called ' http://www.DAS.AutoExpress.com.au.tt ' which when I tried to do a google search just for company name , it did not exist, and also under a few lists of websites reporting to scams , a few popped up under ' DAS-Auto-Express '

He told me that the car is in a cargo box at the moment and cannot be inspected but will have to pay a fee to inspect it.

Did not reply to my email when requested '

Hi Trevor

May I also have a scanned image of :

A current certificate of registration

A safety check report (pink slip*) that is not more than one month old

Proof that the person selling the car is the owner (which is yourself) -- such as a driving licence and sales receipt.

Also the following Information required :

Vehicle registration number

The engine number

The vehicle identification number (VIN) or chassis number

Apologies if this is inconvenient however I will greatly appreciate the effort to provide me this information.

Thanks

-Thommy '

And lastly I noticed that he made key common grammar errors created when English isn't your first language which led me to believe he may be from a Asian descent as these websites have been marked as 'Chinese scammer websites' ( No racism intended , I'm Chinese myself)

I'm not sure if this is valuable to anyone but I just wanted to put it out there for anyone who was thinking of purchasing this car to be careful and get as much information as possible.

I will let you know if there is anymore update.

Any advice or suggestions is also appreciated.

Cheers!

-supanoodle

(Edited removed email address as its work related and i dont want ads and stuff sent to my work email )

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Edited by supanoodle

That screams 'scam' to me. It's not that disimilar to some of the scams i've seen on ebay over the years, and this seems to be a slight derivation on them. Nonetheless its always interesting to discuss the said vehicle with the scammer and to see the way they deal with you. Is interesting.

The pictures of the car appear to have been taken off a particular dealerships website up here in Brisbane, called motorman imports. If for instance ones looks at the attached advert (its just one of their current ones) - http://www.autoline.com.au/vehicle/1442032.html - you will notice the background is identical ie fence posts sizes and colours, same trees showing above the fenceline, even has the same electricity tower in the background. So whilst I couldn't find this particular car as one of their current stock, I'd say that it has been one of their previous ones and this scammer is using them to pull of his scam.

Edited by Simon_Koala

if its the same car then it is at a dealer in brissy. scam scam scam. i had a look at it wen i was in the market to buying one. these pics are some 4 to 5 months old. and if you can not view the car for free.....then dont even think about it. cheers

The car is under $7000, and you only think it's a POSSIBLE scam?!

Stupid people like you are the reason these scammers continue to thrive.

Hey thats a bit harsh man !! We're supposed to help eachother here, not act like that. He was asking our thoughts on this, he wasn't posting that he'd fallen for it and was asking for our advice/help afterwards. Give him credit for that ffs .....

Edited by Simon_Koala

there are so many scams like this , moderately priced items that you have to front money , to buzzed out money transferrign companies , adn there are always conditions such as the car is in the middle of nowhere in the northern teriitiory , yet hes offerign free transport to any state and he is in england but has left a car that is packaged!!!! and since when did someone want 50% deposit just on prior to the first inspection lol !! common sense

and btw unrelated here but why would someone chnage neo covers to povvo rb25 ones or is that even a neo in it lol?

.....

you just remove the plastic neo cover, and that's what it looks like underneath......

and neo covers look like ass. fat, hairy, male ass

yes definite scam lol!

btw those pics were from motorman imports...

i was looking into that car for sale too a few months ago, which had sold around then too - was advertised on carsales, ebay etc. for $27,000

so yeah definitely not what would be advertised for 7k!

is it still for sale?

my bad scam scam scam

normally they take the car overseas then realise they couldnt register it over there

Thats the better one they always offer free freight must have some contacts lol

The car is under $7000, and you only think it's a POSSIBLE scam?!

Stupid people like you are the reason these scammers continue to thrive.

Hey mate ,

if you actually read the whole post from top to bottom , the real purpose of this post was to help out anyone if they were actually planning on purchasing it ( some people can be fooled very easily ) and to warn what scams actually look like , what to look for and how it can be present.

Having a narrowminded comment like that from you clearly states your value within the community.

Lets hope you get scammed in the future and maybe you can learn some manners =]

:/:):):);):banana::banana::banana:

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