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wow, so anoyed at everyone pointing at F1 and saying "its not fun because there is no overtaking"

i think alonso hit the nail on the head about the re-fueling rule and its impact... heres an example

Last years race weekend:

P1-P3, no real change hard to tell who is running what fuel loads and who is realy the quickest (most of the time, occasionally u'd see red bull for example top the time sheets and you just know that they always run heavy that day and hence they had a QUICK car)

Q in general - no change, get to see if anyone makes a mistake and knocked out early or someone puts in a killer of a lap and makes it in but..

Q1 - now there is no stratergy, i've lost the ability to speculate peoples fuel loads, there no one like toyota putting in 5 laps of fuel just to take pole

after Q1 was over i'd look at the grid and go threw and put a +2 to any kers cars and see what that did to the running

then 3 hours or whatever it was the fuel loads were publish, and then there was who was actually faster and how that will play out

then all the press would bring out their predictions for pit stops and again i'd analyse stratergies

and the choice of hard/soft tyres would threw in yet another thing to consider

its here in qualifying that its REALLY hurting our races!! you take away ALL the options for teams, no optinos means no stratergy! no stratergy = boaring racing!!!! i loved qualifying about 2 years ago, not only did you have the stratergy, but you had cars doing lots of laps thanks to fuel credit!!!!!! what more could you want??

then the race... drivers were pushing hard the whole race last year! thats what we wanted to see, not tyre managment... you'd see how fuel loads and stratergies played out, drivers havint to push their cars to get overtaking windows with pit stops or even try and overtake. i agree there still wasent alot of overtaing, but thats not what the sport is about to me... i watch NASCAR for overtaing and crashes! (isnt that what americans are good for??), but still i found F1 entertaining becuase of this stratergy... with all these options taken away from teams the only thing left to them as a stratergy is "managing" cars and not driving them hard! that is the biggest dissapointment to me! what if sebastian vetel had to cover off 2 different ferarri stratergies last race because of 2 pit stops and fuel?? much more exciting in my opinion, and probably would have given you ferarri guys some hope... mad a differance to the result? probably not... but maybe there was a problem in a pit stop or massas stratergey went pear shapped and brought him back close to hamilton??

This years race weekend:

fastest cars line up from front to back in order of speed, reliability kills a few off, then we have a winner.. whoopie, where is the stratergy or fun in that??

i guess you can boil it down to "driving not managment" and "options not processions"

to me thats the heart of the problem, not sure if anyone else sees it that way

Definitely agree with youy there, i loved last years rules. When it came to pit stops is where the action was at and the overtaking. Now BACK TO BOREDOM.

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some of mark webbers complaints i know you boys like :OP

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/nationa...c-1225846795861

on a side note hamilton has overtaken the rundle st utube man as my fav driver :)

I do like and commend his attitude regarding the NANNY states we live, regulated and taxed to the max on everything.

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whats even more supprising to my as alonsos problems over the weekend... didn;t think i'd see a ferarri DNF this season unless someone drove into it =\

if reno get to unfreeze there engines... wow, could make this championship a 2 horse race

I'd be surprised if Renault were given permission to 'un-freeze' their engines to supposedly even things up. If I remember correctly they've been allowed to already back in 08 or 09.

I think if they're (FIA) going to introduce bullshit rules like they did with engine usage and development freeze's then they should stick to it. The rules are the same for everybody, so if one were to submit an under powered engine at the time of the dead line back in 2006 (I think) then too fkn bad...... or you have to 'un-freeze' it for everyone and I for one would love to see what the likes of Ferrari and Mercedes have come up with in the last 3 years.

yeah, i think its a bit BS too and i dont think it'll happen

but just putting it out there, how did the other engines get the extra 70hp more since there was a freeze on engine development and renault was allowed once already to match the competitors performance??

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Been a while since i have been on SAU

here are some photo's from Melbourne that i absolutely didn't take in pit lane :)

and one while not leaning through the safety barrier on pit wall

for how up tight the F1 corporation is they don't enforce rules very well!

walking around all weekend with someone else's photo id

and one of our Mosler GT3 (a real performance import :))

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OMFG those are some awesome shots you got there mate.....love the pic of the renault on the track umm

cheers the iphone is not the best a taking photo's of moving F1'a ;) lucky i got the team i support in focus, as the renault the only one that isn't a blur

plenty more from the pits including a video from the Williams pits while its going through its warm up :blink:

Been a while since i have been on SAU

here are some photo's from Melbourne that i absolutely didn't take in pit lane :blink:

and one while not leaning through the safety barrier on pit wall

for how up tight the F1 corporation is they don't enforce rules very well!

walking around all weekend with someone else's photo id

and one of our Mosler GT3 (a real performance import ;))

was also there for the few days.

might put up some of my pics of places i wasnt meant to be in haha

your right, was able to just walk around almost anywhere. no one really cared to much lol

was also there for the few days.

might put up some of my pics of places i wasnt meant to be in haha

your right, was able to just walk around almost anywhere. no one really cared to much lol

did you drop down past our GT paddock?

Should see the photo's from the place i was meant to be :blink:

F1 after parties = awesome

although i only saw first 5 laps of teh race, and watched qualifying on a tv in a penthouse on Chapel St LOL

Yeah I went over and checked out all the GT cars.

I'm a huge fan of the Ascari (the yellow one) sounded amazing, up untill it was smashed into when it was broke down haha

The Mosler's looked great out there too! I unfortunetly had to sit in the rain getting my ear drums blown out during the warmups, qualitfying and the race for the F1's haha

Didn't go to any after party as it was my 22nd so went out on the town :blink:

Yeah I went over and checked out all the GT cars.

I'm a huge fan of the Ascari (the yellow one) sounded amazing, up untill it was smashed into when it was broke down haha

The Mosler's looked great out there too! I unfortunetly had to sit in the rain getting my ear drums blown out during the warmups, qualitfying and the race for the F1's haha

Didn't go to any after party as it was my 22nd so went out on the town ;)

Well unless you were a promo model or looked 21 wearing a skimpy outfit and had a hot friend next to you, you didn't get an invite to our party LOL

JB was a bit sore and sorry after the GT crash.

our cars made it through the weekend clean in 3rd, 5th and 7th

although there were some investigations into a few driver and moves (including our driver :blink: )

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