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i dont get how this SMG works is it just tiptronic like in any other car or? why is it bad? does the car actually get off the throttle when you change up/down gears?

havent really looked into them im just avoiding them based on what i've read so far. i actually like the idea of a sequential box where its the same as manual just without a clutch pedal but if its bad and has problems etc then i'll stick to the 6sp

My good friend used to own a 1998 E36 M3 Anniversary edition convertible. Was the 3.2L 6 etc.....all it had was a cat back exhaust and it was making 258hp @ the rear wheels. That pulled a low low 13....

If you are really only going to consider an "M" BMW, then go for an E39 M5, power, luxury, style, everything :)

i love all m5s but even the e39 is out of my price range :P but i'll keep a look out for a super good deal, you never know...

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Exactly as it should be. Think of riding a motorbike.

The SMG's are also expensive to fix, and will need a full overhaul by now if not already done.

agreed its the way it should be, my old r34 auto had tiptronic and to go up gears you push forward and it felt so wrong and not natural.

The SMG boxes is a manual gearbox with a normal manual clutch and all that the only difference is that the clutch is engaged and disengaged by electronics and a hydraulic pump.

here is a clip of the SMG box in action with the gear speed turned almost all the way up:

and another using the launch control that these gearboxes have:

^They are E46's. Much improved over E36s.

shit, thats my bad i was talking about e46's and you guys were talking about e36's. sorry about that.

And yes the SMG in the e36's isnt very good. it was greatly improved in the e46's which was the one i test drove. cant really say how the smg is in the e36's as i never test drove one so im only going by what ive been reading which is they are not very good at all.

on another note is it true that the e36 m3's have the same gearbox as the r34 gtr or is it the e46 m3's that have the same as the r34 gtr?

i seeeeeeeee

guess only way to see is to get test drives in both manual and smg and see what suits me best

aargh really want to call up some ads on carsales and organise test drives but i'd feel like a user as i cant actually buy the car till mine is sold lol

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