S2 Auto Cradle Swap... 33gtr?

[JDM_Spirit]

Hello Team!

Ok, Ive been reading around, but cant seem to find a deffinent answer...

Im looking at finally getting some good sized wheels. But to get them to fit, I need to ditch the wide track rear cradle so the Front + Rear are the same.

I did read that I shall require a R33/34(?) GTR Rear Cradle.

But I dont know what else?

I currently have;

-Tien Coilovers(To suit Stagea)

-Adjustable Tow Arms

-Adjustable Camber Arms

-Whiteline Swaybar (R34 GTR)

-R34 GTT Calipers + Rotors

So what I know is I should be able to re-use; on a 33GTR Cradle(Please Confirm?)

-Stagea Diff

-ALL Arms

-Swaybar

-Brakes

-Coilovers

I think the only problem is the Drive Shafts been shorter and the GTR shafts have a different Bolt Pattern??

I know a few people have done this. If someone could point me in the right dirrection Id really apprieciate it

Thankyou in advance

[streatracer]

wouldn't a GTR cradle give you wider track?

Edited August 8, 2010 by streatracer

[chuckie]

if you search these all info you need ok boy`s have said all you need to know

[JDM_Spirit]

wouldn't a GTR cradle give you wider track?

That Ive heard...

"Nissan used a R33 GTR cradles in all the Manual Stagea's along with GTR Diff + Shafts."

Its just what Nissan chose to do...

Also, factory Manual Stagea's have the same Track Front+Rear (dont quote me, only what I heard awhile ago)

[JDM_Spirit]

Early morning hour reading hurts...

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Ti...l=stagea+cradle

darrinspencer's thread

OK... Possible options;

Quotes from...........

M I K E

"...s14/15 rack will fit and is roughly 50mm narrower than the auto stagea cradle and is pretty much identicle width to a factory manual stagea cradle. you have to use an s14 turbo subframe though - no hicas either ..."

"...you could run an s14/15 frame and keep your current struts?.."

RED513

"...Auto stagea shafts-5x1, long

skyline shafts-5x1, std length.."

"...I'd source a R33 Gtst cradle and shafts, same hubs, same struts, same diff & cheap cheap.

Check rear toe arms and Hicas lock bar or go S14/15 cradle but even they flex! (Extra bar welded between toe arms in MIKE's pic above)

Rather then try source New rear struts + complete autech rear or Gtr rear then change diff ratios..."

unique1

"...The arms on rs4 and 260rs are the same lengths..."

"...Also dont forget you will need fork end coilovers on the rear..."

msports180

"...Front track on the autech is 20mm wider to..."

Just to clear any confusion up. My ONLY Goal is to Reduce the Rear Track. NOT upgrade shafts, diff, etc

[M I K E]

M I K E

"...s14/15 rack will fit and is roughly 50mm narrower than the auto stagea cradle and is pretty much identicle width to a factory manual stagea cradle. you have to use an s14 turbo subframe though - no hicas either ..."

"...you could run an s14/15 frame and keep your current struts?.."

this is what i've ended up doing, went with an s14 cradle which is ~50mm narrower and has no hicas

i am now running 18x9.5+1 on the rear with only 0.5degrees negative rear camber and have plenty of room between the strut and the inner edge of the wheel if i wanted to go wider

this first pic is with the stagea rear cradle fitted, then the following is of how my rears sit now with everything changed

[M I K E]

if you have hicas, and want to keep it, then you should be able to run an r33 gts-t rear cradle too. but i don't think you do as you said you have adjustable toe arms (unless you are running cusco drag rods or something? lol)

only reason i went s14 is because it didn't have hicas. i used r33 half shafts though as my diff with 2 way centre is 5 bolt. all arms are exactly the same (lca, toe, camber and traction)

pm me if you have any questions, it's a simple swap but i'm more than happy to help

Edited August 8, 2010 by M I K E

[darrinspencer]

I end up using a complete series 2 manual stagea rear end. A bit hard to find

I have have 19x9.5 +12 rims with 245/35 19 tyres and still have ample strut clearance (approx 10mm) WITHOUT the outer edge of the rim sitting outside the car

Plus have the stronger 6x1 bolt drive shafts, but did have to change to fork bottom shocks and remove hicas rack and fit lock bar.

A R33 GTS (non turbo) cradle does not have hicas, same as the S14/s15 cradle.

[M I K E]

darrin, do you knwo if there is a difference in diff mounts between the turbo and non-turbo r33 cradles?

i know there is a difference in rear mounting points between turbo and non-turbo s14 cradles, make sure you get a turbo one if you buy one from a wrecker