dual web carborator?

[GTRboy]

just wondering, i think its called that a mate of mine was explaining it? he said it gives it quite a bit more horsepower? is thias true n how mcuh more power n how does it work and how much does it cost?

sorry bout all the questions...lol

[strutto]

Dual Webbers...

[GTRboy]

yer liek wat r they? n how do they work n do they give u power?

[Abo Bob]

Honestly no offence intended, but if that's what you're referring to then you were in pre school when they were last relevant.

[GTRboy]

nah its cool i donno thats why im askin i just heard one of my mates talkin bout it?

[red17]

Umm i think we can safely say theres not a car currently in production on the planet (except maybe Skoda) that are still using carbies. Your mates are clearly from the V8 dinosaur set. Even most V8 guys realise fuel injection is the way to go nowadays.

As you may or may not be aware theres two types of fuel delivery systems, one primitive (carburettors) and one modern (fuel injection).

Red17

[strutto]

yeah what they said...

[dojobi]

Kinda offtopic, but why do brand new motorbikes still use carbies? Surely it can't add much more to the price to chuck an ECU in there. I remember being amazed that my 94 CC Lancer used one, but then I found out that 2003 model Kawasaki 250cc bikes are using them!

[strutto]

Most bikes are using multiple slide carbs...

[dojobi]

ah ok, so then I suppose if they slide (which I take to mean they adjust themselves and aren't locked for efficiency at a single point), then they would be almost as efficient as EFI as they aren't just set to be optimal at a particular rev point. Am I totally off? I've got no knowledge of pre EFI tech at all really

[Disciple]

my civic uses twin carbs(as stock) and i have no trouble keeping up if not passing many other civics.. so i dont think carby is as bad as some of u think!

[T0nyGTSt]

For bikes, response is everything.

Flat slide carburettors are very responsive and adequate for many bikes.

However modern EFI is getting so cheap to implement that it's taking over on the big power bikes.

T.

[YRL05S]

I've had several sets of dual Webers on my old datsuns, if you have any direct questions please don't hesitate to ask.

Before people knock them, my old 180B, with a home built 2.4 litre with dual webers ran a best of 14.4 at 97mph.

[Sonic]

Webbers aren't just any carbie. They are THE carbie. :-P

Carbies are good for two reasons: They're very cheap compared to EFI, and the noise a pair of triple side-drafts make on a Prince GT-B.....

[red17]

Oh carbies work, no doubt about that, but alot less flexible generally than most EFI systems nowadays. I even once saw a quad carbie kit for an SR20DE in a japanese mag, betcha that would have sounded impressive.

Red17

[Jamezilla]

My Lada has twin side-draft webbers!

I can feel the power from here. Runs a 0-400 in about a minute or so...

Sounds tough though

[JimX]

I can't think of any current model sportsbike that hasn't swapped over to fuel injection. The Yamaha R6 and R1 were 2 of the last to change over.

The difference on bikes with carbs and injectors is not that great. You can get virtually as much power out of flatside carbs on a bike as fuel injection, you will just suffer a tiny bit of response and economy. Even though it is cheap to put an ECU and injectors in, carbs were still generally cheaper (until recently at least). The main reason why Yamaha finally made the move is because everyone else did it, and was therefore a marketing ploy rather than a performance one.

The biggest problem with carbs on bikes is tuning the buggers.

Edit: Many Jap "cruiser" type bikes still use carbs, but this is more to do with the "image" of trying to look like a Harley. Again, marketing.

[Jamezilla]

JimX: Oooh yeah. Keeping the webbers in tune is a sh*t. That's why I don't tend to bother most of the time - it's not really going to make that much difference on the Niva

[PHaT MR30]

Majority of new bikes use injection, any that don't is cos its more cost affective.

I was only out at the track a few weeks back and there was a 1600 running an SR20DE with twin sideys (personally i would have gone quad throttle bodys if anything).

and i am sure some of u guys have seen the S14 drag car running an L31(stroked L28) with twin turbos and triple webbers? that thing as mad!!

could someone verify for me if it was running methonol? and possibly nitrous?

[SKY031]

Aren't Chrysler still using carbies in the Neons?