Another Central Locking Issue,

[tricstar]

I hope Chris Rogers reads this, I've read heaps of other central locking problems and he seems to be the guru..........

OK Its a R33 GTR with a ? brand alarm etc.... central locking and everything has always worked fine, but in the last couple of days its started doing weird stuff: it locks and unlocks fine with remote but when I get in and start it, as soon as I turn the ignition the doors lock themselves, and when I turn it off they unlock then lock again, also I used to be able to turn ignition off but leave car running with turbo timer, get out and lock with remote, then when it timed out it would automatically alarm itself.. Now when I do that, when the timer times out and car turns off, it unlocks the doors

I'm thinking loose/worn wire/connection, but where to start looking??

[danielr34]

A brand name would be helpful or at least a photo of the remote. It seems as though the "lock/unlock via ignition" feature has been turned on somehow. If this is the case,it can be easily programmed off, but would need to know the brand of alarm. If there is an aftermarket turbo timer that is seperate to the alarm system, this may explain why the door locks, lock themselves when you turn off the key. They are supposed to unlock only when the key is turned off. which they do, but there is a microsecond of time where the alarm sees the ignition drop out and when the turbo timer kicks in and supplies power to the ignition circuit (to keep the engine running) it is probably at this point where the alarm sees this power supply and then proceeds to lock the doors, which in turn explains the issue where the doors unlock after the timer, time out (the alarm sees the ignition drop out again and unlocks the doors)

SOLUTION: turn off the auto lock/unlock feature in the alarm. Some alarm manufacturers call this feature "Antihijack" or "ignition door lock"

Cheers,

[Carbon 34]

The anti car jacking is turned on , it is a good idea even in australia where crims are learning to try to jump into your car at the lights , that i would leave on

Insurance is setup to have a alarm that auto locks the car after a time period ?? i know its annoying but insurance prefers it for coverage ?

Leave it on

Turbo timers are instant defects and ghey ? Just drive it mellow before parking it

Disconnect it

My guess is direct electronics or usa maker ? with a bad wire job on the ignition sense curcuit or outboard module

The car battery has been disconnected or run flat ?or someone has found the valet program switch or button combination on the remote Which defaults it to that setting ,

the turbo timer is another issue depending on if its stand alone or alarm driven

I would suss if you sit in it when the timer stops and doors unlock you will also have power to the windows still ? Not sensing the door pin is a possibility , does the lock bitton beep more now ? if so how many beeps ?

[tricstar]

thats the remote,

it must have gone into anti-hijack mod due to buttons being pushed while in my pocket. Its the only thing I can think of, nobody's been near it, no flat battery or disconnected, etc.... nothing changed, just happened, virtually over night..

As for the turbo timer, I agree with just drive it mellow before parking up, but I do find it handy on the odd occasion I need to leave it running and lock it, normally to let it warm up while I grad a coffee on the way to work also its a GTR with a 2.8L, TO4Z, 272 cams and idles like a top fueler, so defecting the timer is the least of my worries

I've had a good look and can't even find the alarm to see what brand it is, so all you have to go on is the remote, how do I turn anti-hijack off ?

cheers

[danielr34]

  On 21/03/2012 at 10:18 AM, Carbon 34 said:

The anti car jacking is turned on , it is a good idea even in australia where crims are learning to try to jump into your car at the lights , that i would leave on

Insurance is setup to have a alarm that auto locks the car after a time period ?? i know its annoying but insurance prefers it for coverage ?

Leave it on

Turbo timers are instant defects and ghey ? Just drive it mellow before parking it

Disconnect it

My guess is direct electronics or usa maker ? with a bad wire job on the ignition sense curcuit or outboard module

The car battery has been disconnected or run flat ?or someone has found the valet program switch or button combination on the remote Which defaults it to that setting ,

the turbo timer is another issue depending on if its stand alone or alarm driven

I would suss if you sit in it when the timer stops and doors unlock you will also have power to the windows still ? Not sensing the door pin is a possibility , does the lock bitton beep more now ? if so how many beeps ?

The Ignition door lock feature or Antihijack feature where doors lock on ignition is not really that affective against car jacking and there are Antihijack systems that will shut your engine down after you have safely exited the vehicle and they have driven off with your car. The Autowatch alarms have this feature built in to their software already.

Insurance companies stipulate the "Auto Arming Immobilisers" not 'Auto Arming Alarm". Not to keen on the auto arming alarm feature and in case you leave the keys in the car and the door swings shut and then locks you out. In the last 15 or so years I have only had one customer request this feature.

[danielr34]

  On 21/03/2012 at 12:49 PM, tricstar said:

thats the remote,

it must have gone into anti-hijack mod due to buttons being pushed while in my pocket. Its the only thing I can think of, nobody's been near it, no flat battery or disconnected, etc.... nothing changed, just happened, virtually over night..

As for the turbo timer, I agree with just drive it mellow before parking up, but I do find it handy on the odd occasion I need to leave it running and lock it, normally to let it warm up while I grad a coffee on the way to work also its a GTR with a 2.8L, TO4Z, 272 cams and idles like a top fueler, so defecting the timer is the least of my worries

I've had a good look and can't even find the alarm to see what brand it is, so all you have to go on is the remote, how do I turn anti-hijack off ?

cheers

Ok this is a Dynamco/Cyclops alarm immobiliser system, judging by the remote. Check this page to find your remote and alarm model. http://www.dynamco.com.au/remote_compatibility_chart.php

Your welcome....

[Carbon 34]

Anticar jack feature not effective ? It saved my ex wife while her car was in front of the poilice station !! while i grabbed a pizza inside the shop actoss from police station in adelaide a bunch of kids tried to jack her r31 with her in it !! in front of a crowd of people about 9pm on a friday night , the feature was the only thing that stopped them , i couldnt see thru the dark tint on the store windows since the shop was bright and it was dark outside , ,,,,,plus if you crash often doors fly open locked they wont come open so easy? the other portion of anticarjacking is to shut down the car after preset time or speed is reached , sound sirens and strobe or often much more extreme things , i lived in LA the carjack training grounds and myself attempted to take my rx7 with uzi's ( crips) now you can do it with smart phones a lot easier !! And track it and video the crims remotely so many layers of security there head spins even a flat bed wont work lol

only muppets leave keys in cars in australia or anywhere in the world in general!!! ! auto lock alarm ( immobilizer) thats a retarded name its a glorified alarm with more points of protection ?? immobilizer sounds to me like some word forden made up for fuel cut off and horn honking in the 70's but yet cars still get snagged daily with immobalizers go figure

(Australian car theft is worse then usa by far , the crimes dont fit the punishment here end rant no respect for property !! )

After more then 25 years installing in a much busier market then australia I have had very few customers ask to turn off auto arm /lock feature but when your friends play with your keys it wont leave your car ungaurded

Exceptions the teen girls who would fill up at pretrol station leaving her prized purse , etc on the seat to turn and watch the lights flash and lock her out !! Serves those people right !! But i still see purses laptops etc on front seats at malls ? Idiots and they wonder why it gets broken into dooh !!!

Cant find a brand ? Not even on the remote back or siren top ? Hard to see on iphone but i would say one thing upgrade it if you have that much shite in your car , that is a basic model And your car deserves much better one then that !!

I think its

dynamaco model (cyclops branded i believe) if its the one i think it is ??

[tricstar]

Ok I found it, its a 4XR-5 , and I've followed all the program procedures and its still not playing ball, so I'm thinking its time to take it to someone who knows this stuff..

[Chris Rogers]

P385 or the like. any one that does them in perth will be able to help. drop an autowatch on it. pref a 446p.