Info On Clay Bars?

[KyuubiGTR]

Anyone had experience with clay bars as in good brands and clay lube or water based clay??

[starwarz]

I have only used the mother clay bar it was very good paint surface is smooth like silk, dont think about it just use it.

[w34ponGT]

best thing about clay is you cant do any damage, but only thing with clay is once you drop it you got to throw it away because it sticks to the dirt, get quick detailer, and put it in a seperate bottle and dilute it 50/50 with water as no need to waste 100% quick detailer

wash car, clar bar using quick detailer, then use a orbital buffer to cut,polish

then finish off with a hand wax

will come up a1

waxit.com has amazing products eg. poorboys

[KyuubiGTR]

Do I need a sealant? I'm bit sketchy bout using a buff cause I've never done it before and heard you can burn the clear...

So quick detailer is the lube for the clay?

[GH05T]

buffing is a whole other thread, covered allot of times, af far as clay, if you EVER hear a squeak or squeel or scrape stop because i have seen tiny grit get cought then just fark up paintworks. make sure the car is as cleas as you can get it with propper wash and shammy

[PENGUYEN]

Clay magic.

Waxit for cheap (SAU discount)

Carcareproducts for range.

Waxit just brought in a whole new batch of claymagic.

Dont use a quick detailer as lube, use the lubricant made for one. like one included in claymagic kit below. Generally because it contradicts to what you're doing. Quick detailers usually have a sealant in it. When claying, you're trying to remove stuff, not seal it in.

Claymagic kit: http://www.waxit.com...uemart&Itemid=1

^ Split the clay into 4. Put 3 in the sealed bag provided. and the 1 that you use, store it in sandwich ziplock bag, spray a bit of the lube inside bag when storing.

As someone said, as soon as you drop one, throw it away, or you'll just end up marring your paint.

Google two bucket wash, use ph natural shampoo, so it doesn't eat away the wax/sealant that you have already applied.

If you already have some sort of old wax, claybar can remove it, but i tend to use something like Mint APC diluted down to 1:60 (bottle recommends 1:40-80), that'll get most of the wax off without harming the paint.

Dont use any type of shammy, (well i prefer not to, especially on dark car, mainly because of marring) Get something like a waffle weave towel. Super soft, stupidly absorbent.

[PENGUYEN]

Oh and Clay magic (along with Dodo juice and 3M) is from japan, all the same grade of clay.

Zaino and Mint from the usa, also real good.

There are others that are real good. But i cbf thinking at this time.

Dont go for a cheapo clay, say from super cheap, they're usually a chinese poly clay, which differ in quality to above, as in, wont take off contaminates (stick to the clay/pick up), will end up dragging it along, and you end up marring your paint.

[PENGUYEN]

inb4whystherearandomindetailingsubforumhandingoutadvice

[SiR_RB]

I used the mothers clay bar kit and found it left swirl marks

[PENGUYEN]

Oh. And you should clay in straight lines

[GH05T]

buy a new claybar

[KyuubiGTR]

Clay magic.

Waxit for cheap (SAU discount)

Carcareproducts for range.

Waxit just brought in a whole new batch of claymagic.

Dont use a quick detailer as lube, use the lubricant made for one. like one included in claymagic kit below. Generally because it contradicts to what you're doing. Quick detailers usually have a sealant in it. When claying, you're trying to remove stuff, not seal it in.

Claymagic kit: http://www.waxit.com...uemart&Itemid=1

^ Split the clay into 4. Put 3 in the sealed bag provided. and the 1 that you use, store it in sandwich ziplock bag, spray a bit of the lube inside bag when storing.

As someone said, as soon as you drop one, throw it away, or you'll just end up marring your paint.

Google two bucket wash, use ph natural shampoo, so it doesn't eat away the wax/sealant that you have already applied.

If you already have some sort of old wax, claybar can remove it, but i tend to use something like Mint APC diluted down to 1:60 (bottle recommends 1:40-80), that'll get most of the wax off without harming the paint.

Dont use any type of shammy, (well i prefer not to, especially on dark car, mainly because of marring) Get something like a waffle weave towel. Super soft, stupidly absorbent.

perfect..thanks man

[greensa14]

Have used clay a heap of times and never left any marks. Always do it in an up and down motion and never in circles.

Ensure you use the correct lubricant, and the more the better.

Also when storing it I usually get a small Tupperware container to keep it in, and spray some of the lube onto it to keep it moist.

50 shades of clay......lol

[KyuubiGTR]

sweet thanks... so far a mate gave me his old clay and it looks dirty so im launching that and getting claymagic fine..whats the medium for older cars?

[SS8_Gohan]

depending how contaminated you're paint is depends on the level clay you need - eg for a car that's sat outside most its life, living under a eucalypt, will probably need a heavier clay to really do a proper decon

but with the heavier grade clay, you'll most likely marr the paint... not a huge deal as if you're needing to use a heavy clay, you're most likely needing to polish it as well.

the finer grade clay, yes you should be able to get away without marring the paint, but it's still very easy to do if you're not checking the clay often. Something that hasn't been mentioned is that you need to constantly keep folding the clay in-on-itself so you have a fresh surface regularly.

In a pinch, you can use a pH neutral car shampoo diluted down, but some shampoos will have a greater detrimental effect on the clay bar than a dedicated lube will. personally i use FI's Clay bars... their fine grade clay is much finer than the blue clay magic.

The other really important thing to do after a claying is to give some sort of protection, wax or sealant. But you need to clean the car REALLY well after as clay residue is not going to help your LSP out at all. I use FI's Cleanse at the end (after a wash) to cut through any remaining residue, but really get all the clay residue off very thoroughly before moving onto the LSP.

Another tip is to put your piece of clay in a bowl of warm water before you start, just for a little, so it's then nice a pliable.

[w34ponGT]

all this info is good, i never new how technical it can be..because i washed, clay bar with quick detailer, wash again with normal maguires shampoo. then cut and polish, then polish , then hand wax and came out absolute mint!

so maybe it can come out even better?

[w34ponGT]

p.s. 9 freakin hours later

[iwanta34gtr]

^ Well done mate.

Got pics? Would love to see the result.

[w34ponGT]

i did it before the arc forum battle in march. theres a few photos floating around

i dont have a top notch camera like you though lol your photos look amazing on your thread! mmm

[KyuubiGTR]

awesome info lads really appreciated