Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

I wasn't trying to be patronising Jim; if you think that i was, than "you are welcomed"

Let us know how much quicker your turbo spools up .  :jester:

Nah it's cool, I was just being silly, hence the smilie.

It does spool up slightly quicker. I reported something in the Roil thread which was very similar to what everyone was getting with Roil.

No, it's far from necessary. I agree, good quality oils are all you need. But if this product gets a bit of extra power by way of reducing friction, it should be ok to use unless it's doing damage to your engine by turning into hydrochloric acid or the like. It also should in theory also slightly reduce the wear and extend your engine life rather than shorten it. The guy I got my Oil Extreme from has been using and selling it for over 5 years. I think that if it was ruining engines he would have been taken to court over it by now, or something. And he wouldn't still be using it himself or selling it if it was creating headaches for people (himself included).

Jimx,

you will probably find the Lucas and Morey (re-badged Lucas) additives are very similar to oil extreeme also, it's cheaper btw.

I'm using the Lucas oil additive in the GTR and V8 volvo presently. In the GTR I have less than their suggested amount however only about 400ml.

Krawler if you still think that Roil (or oil extreme for that matter) still does nothing, then y have 5 people, independently reported major benifits once adding roil to their cars, yet with nothing to gain out of it?

Fun? Something to do? Time to fill in? Got me buggered?

Have you even bothered to read the full reports written by those who have actually tried roil, or does the world only revolve around your experiences? FFS, i dare you to try roil, then pay it out all you like... If it does nothing, then make a post up paying it out, use every scrap of your intelligence to create a post that i'll never have a comeback for... then feel free to copy it to every single forum on the internet, so that i have no job, no life, and you to thank... now is that a risk i would take if it did nothing...

Now that would be more productive than coming up with pidly little answers, trying to agure with those that have acutally tried two additives to which we both value very highly...

Or you could personally go and arugre with those professions using it... that may even make more sense as they would have no idea about lubrication... Your a brissie boy, start with the holden performance driving centre, then duck down the road and pay out the WRX Experience, drive to the northside, and give a mouthfull to smith and atholwood, the 2000 national drag champs, then board a plane to melbourne, and pay out the australian land speed record holder, and while your down there pay out the other v8 supercar team using it, cause you already would've paid out one when you were at the HPDC, so you'd have experience... And with all that under your belt, come back on and construct a post that just might make us think twice about wot we're saying...

jetpilot1986,

You need to settle down and stop pushing your product through, in the aggressive manner you have been.

I don't give a hoot about what the 5 people from this board have to say about it, as well as the race teams that seem to advertise your product. Let's all build our engines once a month.

How hard is it for roil, or for any other oil additive manufacturer, to have two identical test vehicles; one with the additive and one without. Having regular oil analyses done on both vehicles, by an independent third party, would provide all the sceptics with some factual data. If you think that might not be conclusive enough, surely there is another way to prove the worthiness of these additives, apart from collecting testimonials from whoever is willing to give. Or some sort of mock up test machine that doesn't resemble the working environment of a combustion engine.

If you think that, a company (amway at that) with the budget and resources of 1% of the large oil companies, can come up with the revolutionary product with some secret ingredient, good for you...!

If you also believe that, selling products similar to yours only through infommercials and part-time distributors, adds to their inclusiveness; again good for you...!

Just don't expect every other person to follow suit.

[sarcasm]If it is the product you say it is and proven, than it will take over the market in the next 6 months and you will reap all the benefits of being one of the exclusive distributors.[/sarcasm]

OMOMATIC > Amway washing powder.

Sorry...

How hard is it for roil, or for any other oil additive manufacturer, to have two identical test vehicles; one with the additive and one without. Having regular oil analyses done on both vehicles, by an independent third party, would provide all the sceptics with some factual data. If you think that might not be conclusive enough, surely there is another way to prove the worthiness of these additives, apart from collecting testimonials from whoever is willing to give. Or some sort of mock up test machine that doesn't resemble the working environment of a combustion engine.

Try these...

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/photopost...9Page_7-med.jpg

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/photopost...9Page_8-med.jpg

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/photopost...9Page_9-med.jpg

It was an independent trial done on three fiat bulldozers... It was conducted intirely independent of neways by a company called 'Wear Check' with the help of BeInformed....

BTW.. sorry.. i know i tend to get worked up over this... its just frustrating when people aren't willing to except something different... your entitled to an opinion, and i appreciate any feedback, be it good or bad, however i'm yet to have one person who has tried it return anything other than positive results, and so when people who havn't even tired it will stare in the face of others who have (not only myself), and protest that it does nothing, it really does get to me...

How hard is it for roil, or for any other oil additive manufacturer, to have two identical test vehicles; one with the additive and one without. Having regular oil analyses done on both vehicles, by an independent third party, would provide all the sceptics with some factual data. If you think that might not be conclusive enough, surely there is another way to prove the worthiness of these additives, apart from collecting testimonials from whoever is willing to give. Or some sort of mock up test machine that doesn't resemble the working environment of a combustion engine.

Amen to that.

Another test that would be worth doing is a test based on long term use of the product and its effect on the various metal components it comes into contact with through out the engine. Specifically looking at clogging of oil galleries, acid attack, etc. Thats something that cant be tested on all these race cars because they are being rebuilt so frequently, or doing very low kays.

And the full test would obviously involve the testers being unaware which has the additive.

It was an independent trial done on three fiat bulldozers... It was conducted intirely independent of neways by a company called 'Wear Check' with the help of BeInformed....

Funny you should mention that. The mechanic that sells Oil Extreme says he sells most of it to a local council (I think, some sort of government agency anyway) who use it on their bulldozers. Not for the extra power, but for the extra friction protection. They've been using it for years, so I presume it's doing something good.

yeah... they're not so different after all... its just a pitty no one want to accept them... roil and oil extreme is out there and being used widely, and whether or not ppl want to beleive it, they work, and their missing out...

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • Have a look at that (shitty) pic I posted. You can see AN -4 braided line coming to a -4 to 1/8 BSPT adapter, into a 1/8 BSPT T piece. The Haltech pressure sender is screwed into the long arm of the sender and factory sender (pre your pic) into the T side. You can also see the cable tie holding the whole contraption in place. Is it better than mounting the sender direct to your engine fitting......yes because it removes that vibration as the engine revs out 50 times every lap and that factory sender is pretty big. Is it necessary for you......well I've got no idea, I just don't like something important failing twice so over-engineer it to the moon!
    • Yup. You can get creative and make a sort of "bracket" with cable ties. Put 2 around the sender with a third passing underneath them strapped down against the sender. Then that third one is able to be passed through some hole at right angles to the orientation of the sender. Or some variation on the theme. Yes.... ummm, with caveats? I mean, the sender is BSP and you would likely have AN stuff on the hose, so yes, there would be the adapter you mention. But the block end will either be 1/8 NPT if that thread is still OK in there, or you can drill and tap it out to 1/4 BSP or NPT and use appropriate adapter there. As it stands, your mention of 1/8 BSPT male seems... wrong for the 1/8 NPT female it has to go into. The hose will be better, because even with the bush, the mass of the sender will be "hanging" off a hard threaded connection and will add some stress/strain to that. It might fail in the future. The hose eliminates almost all such risk - but adds in several more threaded connections to leak from! It really should be tapered, but it looks very long in that photo with no taper visible. If you have it in hand you should be able to see if it tapered or not. There technically is no possibility of a mechanical seal with a parallel male in a parallel female, so it is hard to believe that it is parallel male, but weirder things have happened. Maybe it's meant to seat on some surface when screwed in on the original installation? Anyway, at that thread size, parallel in parallel, with tape and goop, will seal just fine.
    • How do you propose I cable tie this: To something securely? Is it really just a case of finding a couple of holes and ziptying it there so it never goes flying or starts dangling around, more or less? Then run a 1/8 BSP Female to [hose adapter of choice?/AN?] and then the opposing fitting at the bush-into-oil-block end? being the hose-into-realistically likely a 1/8 BSPT male) Is this going to provide any real benefit over using a stainless/steel 1/4 to 1/8 BSPT reducing bush? I am making the assumption the OEM sender is BSPT not BSPP/BSP
    • I fashioned a ramp out of a couple of pieces of 140x35 lumber, to get the bumper up slightly, and then one of these is what I use
    • I wouldn't worry about dissimilar metal corrosion, should you just buy/make a steel replacement. There will be thread tape and sealant compound between the metals. The few little spots where they touch each other will be deep inside the joint, unable to get wet. And the alloy block is much much larger than a small steel fitting, so there is plenty of "sacrificial" capacity there. Any bush you put in there will be dissimilar anyway. Either steel or brass. Maybe stainless. All of them are different to the other parts in the chain. But what I said above still applies.
×
×
  • Create New...