R33 GTS25 Vs R32 GTS25 ??

[cogs]

Hey, I'm looking at purchasing a non-turbo Skyline and was -up until a few minutes ago- set on an N/A R33 but I just found an R32 GTS25 (pretty rare I believe) for sale on the net and thought I'd have a look at some numbers and compare the 2 cars.

R33 GTS25 Type S

RB25DE

200 ps (147.10 kw) / 6400 rpm

23.5 kg*m (230.46 N*m) / 4800 rpm

Curb vehicle weight: 1320kg

R32 GTS25 Types

RB25DE

180 ps (132.39 kw) / 6000 rpm

23.0 kg*m (225.55 N*m) / 5200 rpm

Curb vehicle weight: 1320kg

I was surprised to see that both cars (in Type S form at least) weigh the same (1320kg). If that's true why does everyone make R33's out to be so much heavier??

Also what is the reason for the power/torque differences between the RB25DE in the R32 and in the R33?

All these figures were taken from http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/nissan/skyline/

R32 - http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/21746/

R33 - http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/21713/

I like the look of both cars, slightly preferring the R32 maybe, but the R33 has a bit more legroom for me (I'm tall).

Thanks. :confused:

[jazza08]

Hey dude, long time no talk.

Regardless of those figures the r32 will definatly be lighter thats for sure.

Id say the power figures would be true as Nissan would of further enginereed the rb25 for the r33 as well.

R33s are heavier yes, but your only talking 100-150kgs really, which isnt heaps.

Alot of people make them out to seem alot heavier due to them being slightly bigger than the 32 but on paper the figures dont show a huge weight difference.

If you can find an r32 rb25de go for it i reckon, pretty rare and obviously you can slot an rb25det straight in there once you gather up the cash!! Thats the best of both worlds

Well hope that helped dude... after owning a 180sx both of these cars are roomy which i like but the 33 is slightly larger inside and out.

Jaz

[geordie]

Overal the R33 is larger, and the extra power is most likely due to the rb25de in the r33 coming with the updated vct head.

I think when your considering an NA skyline it really comes down to visual preferance as neither of the cars are overly quick in the scheme of things, so basicly in the end all i can sugest ids go for what suits you best.

I like my R32 GTS25, was a great first car, and why i havent been able to let it go just yet, but eventually you start looking for more grunt.

[Barbrady]

Hey man I was looking at r32's and r33's in non-turbo too when I went to buy my car. I ended up getting a r33 and Im glad I did. The power differance isn't much but I personly think r33's look a hell of a lot sexyer. There's some good prices out there now days too.

[Ant]

Note that the non-type S R33 GTS25's are 190PS (139.75kw). Difference between the R33 models is that the type S has a variable capacity muffler. which the non-type S doesn't have, I think that explains the difference.

As for the R32 <> R33 GTS25 type S difference, as someone has said AFAIK the R33 has the VCT head, which the R32 doesn't have. The R32 also doesn't have the variable capacity muffler.

The whole weight thing is a bit of an urban legend, the reality is that the R33 whale actually weighs sod all more than the R32. Just the design makes it look a lot heavier.

Ultimately it comes down to your preference for the exterior/interior design, and the fact that the R33's are newer.

[Cubes]

The R32 also runs a slightly shorter diff.

A friend had his TypeM R33 T on a weigh bridge. From memory it was slightly over the 1400kg mark without driver and half a tank of fuel. I can't remember the exact figure.

There's many weight figures floating around.

I remember seeing the R32 GTST TypeM 92 model weigh 1320kg.

The non turbo cheapo's were 1280kg's.

The earlier 89 models weighed a little less and the R33 GTST TypeM weighed 1380kg.

[Kor'axis]

How can you tell whether it's a type M or a type S?