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Hi Guys,

I have a brand new set of URAS Super Pineapples for sale to suit Nissan Silvia S13-S14, Skyline R32-R33 and 300ZX Z32 (not sure about R34s or S15s). I was given them by a retailer for late delivery on another part I ordered. I was going to use them but a truck decided to kiss my car (and run) so I have some other expenses.

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Apparently you can tell they are Super Pineapples because they are missing the white ring around the circumference of normal URAS Pineapples. Super Pineapples are 5mm thicker than standard URAS Pineapples: I put the calipers on them and they are 18mm thick. According to the retailer they were bought in person at Tokyo Auto Salon :)

For those that don't know about Pineapples, they are urethane 'spacers' which remove movement from the rear subframe assembly, thus providing better and more consistent feedback. They help remove axle tramp and can be setup to change the angle of your subframe for drift or drag.

More and bigger pictures are available here (can you tell I was bored? :)). Greenline list these for approx. $160 ex shipping and taxes. I'm looking for about $150. Item is located in Leichhardt (Sydney): you're welcome to inspect and happy to send interstate.

Edit: Price drop: after $130 for the set

:)

Lucien.

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Hi Guys,

I've had a couple of PMs from interested people -- all replied too now -- who seem seem a little confused about what Pineapples do.

To reiterate, Pineapples are spacers. They help to remove movement in the rear sub-frame by basically pushing it up against the base of the car. They are commonly -- and incorrectly -- referred to as sub-frame bushes, which are something else again: the Pineapples work with your existing bushes. URAS were the first and original suppliers of Pineapples.

Here is a nice diagram I stole form Whiteline that explains how they work and can be used for track, drift, and road situations (note that the Whiteline setup is slight different as it has different sized rings: the same principles apply):

pineapple-install.png

Any questions, let me know :P

:)

Lucien.

lwells Grand Master

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Hi Guys,

I've had a couple of PMs from interested people -- all replied too now -- who seem seem a little confused about what Pineapples do.

To reiterate, Pineapples are spacers. They help to remove movement in the rear sub-frame by basically pushing it up against the base of the car. They are commonly -- and incorrectly -- referred to as sub-frame bushes, which are something else again: the Pineapples work with your existing bushes. URAS were the first and original suppliers of Pineapples.

Here is a nice diagram I stole form Whiteline that explains how they work and can be used for track, drift, and road situations (note that the Whiteline setup is slight different as it has different sized rings: the same principles apply):

pineapple-install.png

Any questions, let me know :)

:cheers:

Lucien.

lwells Grand Master

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Oh dear, I am still getting confused PMs ;) I'll take another shot at explaining how they work.

Again, the pineapples are spacers. They work with the existing sub-frame bushes. In simple terms, they push the sub-frame hard up against the car so there is less movement in the sub-frame, and therefore the rear end is more predictable. URAS were the first and original suppliers of Pineapples.

They can be setup in three basic ways: an 'all round' setup for daily driving and track work, a drag setup, and a drift setup. I've modified a diagram (stolen from Whiteline) to help explain how they work.

Standard sub-frame mounting:

The standard sub-frame looks this (looking from the side):

uras-standard.png

1. All round setup:

uras-allaround.png

You put both bushes on underneath the subframe, so they are pushing it up against the body. Because both rings are in the same place, the rear subframe remains at the same angle relative to the car (but held more forcefully) as the standard arrangment.

2. Drift setup:

uras-drift.png

You put the pineapple on the front mount below the subframe (as per all round setup), but place the rear pineapple between the sub-frame cradle and the body. This slightly changes the angle of the sub-frame relative to the car by pushing the rear of the sub-frame slightly lower than in the stock arrangment. Thus the the inclination of the sub-frame (and attached items such as the differential) changes reducing the tendency to "squat" (ie. you get less traction, because with drift you don't want the rear end to try and achieve traction).

3. Drag setup:

uras-traction.png

This is the opposite of the drift setup. You place the pineapples in the opposite order: on the front mount, you place it between the sub-frame and body, and on the rear you put it under the subframe (as per all round). Again, it changes the angle of the sub-frame relative to the car -- in the opposite direction to the drift setup -- by pushing the front of the sub-frame slightly lower than in the stock arrangment, but this time encourages the rear end to "squat" for traction.

All clear now? :)

:O

Lucien.

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Coconuts $100

Oh dear, I am still getting confused PMs ;)  I'll take another shot at explaining how they work.

Again, the pineapples are spacers.  They work with the existing sub-frame bushes.  In simple terms, they push the sub-frame hard up against the car so there is less movement in the sub-frame, and therefore the rear end is more predictable.  URAS were the first and original suppliers of Pineapples.

They can be setup in three basic ways:  an 'all round' setup for daily driving and track work, a drag setup, and a drift setup.  I've modified a diagram (stolen from Whiteline) to help explain how they work.

Standard sub-frame mounting:

The standard sub-frame looks this (looking from the side):

uras-standard.png  

1. All round setup:

uras-allaround.png  

You put both bushes on underneath the subframe, so they are pushing it up against the body. Because both rings are in the same place, the rear subframe remains at the same angle relative to the car (but held more forcefully) as the standard arrangment.

2. Drift setup:

uras-drift.png  

You put the pineapple on the front mount below the subframe (as per all round setup), but place the rear pineapple between the sub-frame cradle and the body. This slightly changes the angle of the sub-frame relative to the car by pushing the  rear of the sub-frame slightly lower than in the stock arrangment.  Thus the the inclination of the sub-frame (and attached items such as the differential) changes reducing the tendency to "squat" (ie. you get less traction, because with drift you don't want the rear end to try and achieve traction).

3. Drag setup:

uras-traction.png  

This is the opposite of the drift setup. You place the pineapples in the opposite order: on the front mount, you place it between the sub-frame and body, and on the rear you put it under the subframe (as per all round).  Again, it changes the angle of the sub-frame relative to the car -- in the opposite direction to the drift setup -- by pushing the front of the sub-frame slightly lower than in the stock arrangment, but this time encourages the rear end to "squat" for traction.

All clear now? :)

:rofl:

Lucien.

lwells Grand Master

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exXU1: As I already said via PM, I am not willing to accept $100: I don't consider a 33% reduction on the price I am asking as reasonable. I have been more than forthcoming on the cost of these items from a cheap supplier like Greenline. I could have quoted RRP from Australian shops if I wanted to inflate their cost and make my sale look "even better".

I'm open to offers, but do try and be reasonable.

sky_m6m9: Is your question directed at me or exXU1? I am selling all four and exXU1 offer was for the lot. Having less than four would be useless.

Lucien.

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exXU1:  As I already said via PM, I am not willing to accept $100:  I don't consider a 33% reduction on the price I am asking as reasonable.  I have been more than forthcoming on the cost of these items from a cheap supplier like Greenline.  I could have quoted RRP from Australian shops if I wanted to inflate their cost and make my sale look "even better".

I'm open to offers, but do try and be reasonable.

sky_m6m9:  Is your question directed at me or exXU1?  I am selling all four and exXU1 offer was for the lot.  Having less than four would be useless.

Lucien.

question was to u, so its for all fours? mind reserving 2 sets? me and friend are interested, If we are to buy 2 sets, do accept it for 130 for both of us? so thats 260 for 2 sets.

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question was to u, so its for all fours? mind reserving 2 sets? me and friend are interested, If we are to buy 2 sets, do accept it for 130 for both of us? so thats 260 for 2 sets.

Hi,

I am not a store/trader, just a private individual. I have only the one set (i.e. four pineapples). You can always order more from Greenline, who are usually very price competitive, but as I said they want over $160, then you have shipping, duty and GST to pay. I would imagine it would cost about $200-220 to land a set via Greenline depending on freight costs and if you get hit with taxes.

Edit: The price I am asking is for the set (that is, all four).

Lucien.

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