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Hey dudes, gotta let this off my chest

cops suck dick, i talked my way outta a yellow yesterday and gave them a ripe all talking to, the embarressment of getting pulled over with ur mum in the car, good thing is mumzy got involved when i was saying a few words to the cops about how stoopid they are! pissed me right off 4-5 License checks in just one and a half weeks approx! not a happy camper

adrian :P

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yeah, the ones that pulled me over hahaha i bet ya they wished they hadn't lol lets just say i questioned them why they pulled me over and they were like to check your license so i said why me though and he was like i dunno i choose who i wanna pull over,

adrian:- yeah coz i got p plates and it's a japanese car?

cop:- (no answer)

cop:- i've pulled over about 10 cars today

adrian:- i just passed you pulling out of the police station?

cop:- i've gotta go, have a nice day

adrian:- mumbles thanx for wasting my time

in the meantime mum is having chat to the other one heheheeee asking wats the point

ahh feels so good to leave cops speechless :P

adrain :P

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