No Crust Racing

Some very good food for thought there. Thanks as always guys, appreciate the time taken to respond. Has my question been answered? Not entirely but I do have more things to consider and am more aware of the factors at play so we're moving in the right direction. EDIT: Coz I'm the mad typo king uleh~

Hey Baron, I did a DECA on them, about 30k's and had no noticable wear. Car was trailered down. Car has done another 30-40 street k's since that track day as it's not really street friendly in looks or mods, street reg'd yes, driven rarely though. I'm thinking see how we go with the next set of rubber, I'm just not keen onthe idea of learning that I have a bad setup while chewing out new semis. Pyrometer will tell me the inside egde is hot sure, but then what? I still need some idea of what requires adjustment. Might have to get DMS to align it at that point.

sorry Russ I must not have explained myself well. What Jamie was saying is that more caster = mroe neg camber through cornering = more load on the tyre shoulder, more heat, more wear etc.

Oh I know they adjust independently what I mean isthat whenyou adjust camber it means the toe settings change at the same time, which is fine so long as you have enough adjustment to bring it back to where you want it. That being said, I was just trying to confirm in which direction toe changed when backing off the camber.

Noted regarding damper/spring differentiation. Sway bars are stock, spring isn't "that" firm so it should roll enough to get a decent contact patch if that's where you're heading? Agreed re second hand tyres, even still, these are considerably better than what it was running. An improvement is an improvement regardless of the margin. These gained me lap time for a very good rate and while I'm learning (very green with track driving) I'm not stressed about flat spotting them or ruining them, as they were dirt cheap. So dirt cheap + made a very notable improvement = win? These tyres came with even wear, it was only AFTER my first track day on them that the wear changed considerably. I have no which end of the car they originally came from before I got them.

1. I don;t have any with the new rims/tyres and suspension settings, I might after this next track day. 2. Disagree, learned that even second hand semi's shit all over brand spanking new "WAN -LI" which came on the car, of course this was not a surprise. What I really learned is that My GT-R with it's Dunlop Direzza's would have a hard time out cornering my S13 with these super cheap/stuffed semi's. Ergo, I will be buying new semi's when these die rather than good street tyres. 3. Agreed - I'm simply exploring theories, bottom line is the tyres are wearing. I'd like to know why so I can minimise this. 4. As I understand it, 0. 5. On the softest damper setting they "feel" no different to a car with stock shocks on lowered springs. 8kg, by comparison to what a lot of other track cars are running (only based on what I read of other people's setups) seems soft by comparison. Perhaps this is a "perspective" thing. 6. lol agreed and thanks for your input, much appreciatd 7. Lists rule.

Furthermore, I spoke to DMS about it (here in Albury/Wodonga) and Jamie reckons the car needs less Castor (from memory it's running about +5.5) as this increases load on the tyre shoulder during cornering. He said he'd start there and then look at tyre pressures (which are currently around 32-33 hot) given the alignment fgures being as I have claimed. He noted that -2.5 was sfa camber and that it should not be wearing the edge hard.

Well they are old and they are very second hand so the heat cycles have probably hardened the compound a bit. Clarify something for me, if I wind the camber out a bit, say back to -2 deg, that will give me a touch more toe out than it has now yes?

Russ, Dude look at my car, I'm ALL about budget racing True, no understeer is win, and the semi's were dirt cheap as they were second hand but if I can get more out of them (I'm already flipping them on the rims etc) then that would be great. I'm more interested in improving my handling by having the right settings and I'm concerned my tyre wear shows that I'm running the wrong setup for my car speed/skill/track etc

Hey Dane Yeah dunno, I didn't think 8kg was "that" stiff and I've got the shocks pretty soft. I might knock'em back further for the Fun Day coming up, see if it makes much of a difference.

Standard sway bar, front shocks are only running 6 "clicks" up from the softest setting out of a possible 32 steps, so close to softest, they're only 8kg springs too. Reckon I'm just not carrying enough corner speed? My car is not that quick, mild mods on a CA doesn't give big power.

About 32-33psi and they're Bridgestone Potenza 540's or something (not an RE55's - of that I'm sure). They measure 235/45/17's

Hi Guys, I've got a question regarding my tyre wear up front. Car is S13 with Coilovers running Bridgestone Potenza Semis. After the last track day I noticed the inside edge of the fronts had taken a noticable beating, I did around 160k's at Winton. I'm running -2.5 deg camber up front with toe set to 0 (from what I recall, can't find last alignment settings camber I'm certain though) and -1.5 in the rear. The reason I'm querying my camber setting is that I have two conflicting bits of info. On one hand I'm thinking that I'm running too much camber for my vehicle speeds and not getting the tyre contact patch evened out under cornering (it's only a CA with minor mods). On the other hand I had Luke Youldon (he was my driver trainer on the last track day I did) tell me that I need a bit MORE camber to stop the car wanting to understeer in higher speed corners (like the double apex left hand sweeper at winton). He said it was that or that my semi slicks were almost gone (which is highly likely as I bought them second hand to learn on). I can throw up some pics if necessary but it's pretty straight forward, the inside edge of both fronts is clearly more worn than the outside edge. My gut feeling tells me a bit less camber would be better. I have adjustable camber tops on these coilovers but I know that changing my camber settings will throw out my toe also and I'm not sure which way to adjust or by how much. Thoughts appreciated

What what Russ said. You in Russ?

How long is a piece of string? lol Seriously though I can't answer that question and neither can Winton as you can pretty much turn up on the day and have a go. To be honest though, these fun days are the busiest Winton track days of the year as they do not require racing licenses and are open to the general public. As I mentioned above, there will definitely be plenty of people and some of those will not be as aware as others when on the track as it can be a daunting experience especially for first timers. As with any form of motorsport there are risks to yourself and the car and you will be hard up to get any insurance to cover you while on the track so keep that in mind. Now, having said all that... You can do a lot to avoid any incidents by driving safely, being alert and treating every other car on the track like it's loaded with plastic explosives, works for me

lol I'll be too busy with my head in the engine bay of the S13 Catch you there

lol there's always one... the noise measurement is technically from about 30 meters away. I've also not seen this be measured before, to be honest I'm pretty confident you'll be fine.

Everyone needs a helmet and everyone needs to wear full length non-synthetic clothing and closed toe shoes.

Wow, super gay, that's some "mate" you have there =\ At least he's willing to pay the damages. lol Go for it! Make sure you come say hey btw. Do it! See above Sif choose skiing over Motorsport...

Kez... fastest reply in the west! You didn't answer my FB query about how you did it and what it actually was etc.

The last fun day for the year will be held on the 13th of December, a Sunday, so for anyone looking for some very cheap track time put this on your calendar. This is an 80% circuit event (drive too hard or recklessly and you will be black flagged). You will be cutting laps of the track and having fun and remember this is not a race and people driving as such will be black flagged - I know from experience 0_0 I'll be there in the SlowVia for some fun and to give the missus a bit of track time, who else is going? For those who've never been before I'll throw up a few quick points. - There is no timing - There are quite a few cars on the track at any one time - There will DEFINITELY be some idiots with no idea about driving on or off the track attending this event - There will be passenger sessions in which a roll cage is not required (I have confirmed this with Winton) - Sessions are around 30mins and alternate between driver only and passengers - Learners/Kids get a session over lunch where they can circulate behind a safety car - It's crazy cheap at around $30 and there are no race licensing requirements. - Your car will have to pass scrutineering, bringing a bomb for fun will not impress officials. That covers some of the common questions, you can hit the FAQ's at the Winton site HERE Hope to see you all there.

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