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too true.....reminds me of a great preacher man that once said (something along these lines) "The devil is very subtle, he won't come at you with horns and a pitch fork otherwise he would be easy to reject".

Already has bud.....this place is a classic example. Try slagging a business, like you could a couple of decades ago, in the interest of fore warning others of less than honest practices and you're likely to get served with a subpoena! ......or Andrew banning your ass, lol. We've adopted the US's litigious ways where you can call me a wog on the footy field but risk me taking your house away.......how is that even in proportion......this all started way back with the adoption of political correctness to the extreme......America sneezes and we get the Flu!

Looks like some pretty nice 4x4 country Chad.......I see Matty's eyes light up, lol

yeah very sad bud.....classic case of 'money can't buy happiness'.......although it helps , but there's more to life me thinks.

ooooh yes please......let me know what I owe you for it bud, thanks.

begin rant; The “Serious & Organized Crime Control Act”, otherwise known as the “Anti-Bikie Law” is in the public’s eyes, targeted at the leather jacket wearing members of the community, yeah......wrong!! The law clearly states that association with a Bikie of 6 times or more a year can see you facing a minimum of 5 years in jail......lol, some murderers don’t get that!! The new Bill enables Mal Hyde to obtain orders from the Attorney General to declare Bikie groups illegal and anyone who associates with them can have their movements restricted based on Police intelligence, which must remain secret! This new Bill is like placing a walnut on the kitchen table and smashing it with a sledge hammer.....consequence = collateral damage (absolute overkill). We already had sufficient laws to control the illegal activities of Bikies, they just needed better enforcement. Even the Law Society reckons parts of the Bill are not fair and undermine the presumption of innocence, but our mate Rann has his head in the sand when anyone with ½ a brain tells him that!! Here’s a direct quote, “the Bar Association and Law Society say the legislation removes fundamental civil and political rights.” Here’s another quote from a well respected man ‘Mac Hays’ (even Rann likes him) who’s involved in Christian ministry to the Bikie world and others; “there has been a carefully orchestrated plan by those in power to manipulate the media to demonize Bikies in order to create a climate of fear among the public so that when the “Bikie Bill” is introduced, the public would naively accept it in the misguided belief that it would keep them safe from the Bikie menace.” Jon Goldberg (President of the Law Society) wrote an article in the Advertiser just before Christmas called “How the Bikie Legislation fails all of us”, I think it was Nov/Dec 2008, do a search. Now here’s where James’s post comes into light; Benjamin Franklin once said, “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” Did you guys know that the new Bill is modelled on laws against terrorism; laws which are still controversial even when they’re applied to alleged terrorists....lol, ever heard of Guantanamo Bay!! So people who come under this legislation (i.e. all South Aussies & other States to soon follow), who may be in fact quite innocent, will have the following essential liberties either undermined or possibly removed: Presumption of innocence Ability to know any detail about the allegations against you Your right to silence Ability to challenge or appeal an accusation in court Freedom of assembly Right to trial by jury Need for proof beyond reasonable doubt Think I’m over dramatising or a conspiracy theorist.......read the whole Bill then!! Careful who you unknowingly associate with or where you may find yourself cause you may be (in years to come) be committing a criminal offence and any action that you may face can be kept secret from you as it’s classified as “criminal intelligence”. Here’s the funny thing though, read the Bill and find out who gets to apply this law that can rob you of so many every day liberties.............the Attorney General, a flaming politician LOL, whose main job is to appease those that put him in power, after all he’s only there temporarily for a non-fixed term and who knows what power hungry goon will replace him when he's gone, hahaha!! The bloke’s not a judge who has to be impartial, he’s a suck up to the electorate and the toads in parliament that not only put him there but make up these stupid overkill laws. Whatever happened to the presumption of innocence before being proved guilty......even a serial killer like Ivan Milat got a fair trial at our great expense!! Getting back to Guantanamo Bay for a sec.......do we torture peeps to get names of their accomplices?? In 2003 the Thai government set up police hit squads (do a search) to slaughter 100’s of peeps suspected of being criminals!! Don’t think for a minute that we can’t go down the same road as other countries that dictate and rule the little people with an iron fist.....these laws take us more than ½ way down that road. I’m all for getting tough with crims, but leave the innocent alone until proven otherwise. Anyway, sorry about all the dribble (this has plagued me for a long time)......now I’ll go away and memorize the Russian National Anthem.

Like I said previously, the day they crush a car owned by a finance company, will be the day it's my shout! LOL James, you are so close to the truth that I don't even think you realize it.........I'll gather my thoughts later and give you some insight on the ramifications of these new "anti-association laws" that this Rann government is trying to shove down our throats. Rann & his public relation croanies have successfully instilled so much fear into the public (Re: Bikies) through the manipulation of the media that we've quickly and openly accepted these laws with our eyes shut to future ramifications.......lol at fear campaigns!! to be continued.....

hahaha.......well my uncle's, wife's, sister-in-law, on her father's side, but twice removed from her uncle's, brother's, 2nd cousin's, neighbour's, friend..........(deep breath)........begs to differ!!

dunno then....ring rego office and ask for a 1 or 2 day pass to drive anywhere and for the whole day and see how you fair he may have had a pass on there but was using it illegally cause you are required to nominate where you're going (ie. place of repair or Regency). The fine print on that pass would've had that info on there.

was he a dealer?

incorrect....those days are long gone.........you need to specify where you're going exactly and must take the shortest possible route

LOL Matty, where did you go? Just quietly, we need to convince Luke into getting a 4x4.......he's apparently contemplating the idea!!

LOL, we're pathetic..........well done to the massive win by the Crows though

nope ^^^

LOL Craig, what the....???

I'm probably an advocator of the above too

LOL, prolly nothing you can say on the boards I'm guessing Luke....you"ll have to tell me at the dinner Def should get one though so we can all go bush bashing!!

so over this Wasteland crap Thread Locked

ROR Matty, ever since you bought that truck, you've become a gadgets man!!

Kye you don't have to come earlier if you don't want to or can't for any reason, but you should try and come as early as you can even if it's just for the social thingy

In light of events on a previous cruise (as per Chad's link), and I think I speak on behalf of the senior SAU-SA commitee members, Not Interested!! You don't need SAU-SA's involvement to conduct your own regular cruises......that's not what the club is about. That's not to say SAU-SA won't ever organize a cruise but if it does, there'll more than likely be an event attached to it or finish up with maybe a BBQ lunch or for a charity event or after an event like the Riverland Show that also incorporates a cruise & BBQ. These regular aimless cruises that continue through till 2 or 3 am around the CBD are inviting trouble and whether you like it or not, are (in the eyes of the law) associated with the likes of RCK etc.....whether you do a skid or not, you'll be tarnished with the same brush.

Guys, pls check the title of this thread and keep that in mind when posting. We're not as anal in the general section but will be in the sticky section, therefore stay on topic and take your cruise ideas to another thread pls. We're up to 10 pages of dribble already when all this could've been done in less than half that amount......it's just more pointless reading for me and the other boys, thanks.

Thanks bud

Calling Chad, calling Chad......where are you?? Are you anywhere near my house tomorrow? Need some welding advice bud (gates & RSJ's for a retaining wall).......would get my Dad who's a Boilermaker but he's fallen very ill unfortunately.