Eoi: Nismo And Kaaz Lsd

[Kaido_RR]

hey,

I'm thinking about starting a group-buy on lsd;

Basicly it will be for: Skyline and maybe s13/14/15 (just checkin on that)

Minimum Number(s): 05

Maxmum Number(s): 10 (this is to keep the cost down on shipping, i would like to only do 5 as its easyer on the tax also)

Cost:

Nismo 1.5/2way lsd: $1050 + shipping

KAAZ 1.5/2way lsd: $1000 + shipping

If we get a whole bunch of people we can do 2 groups or more to keep down the cost of shipping, also if your willing to wait 4weeks we can put them on a boat and it will cost very little in shipping, air is more but only takes 1 and abit weeks

Once orders are placed it will take max of 2weeks to get them. (if we uses air)

Cheers Michael

Also i am a SAUWA member and many wa members know who i am, so i can be trusted and willnt run away with your money

[Kaido_RR]

pricers now confirmed, ruff est on shipping $170 per LSD but will confirmed asap

[gt-t_r34]

are the nismo lsds the GT ones that you can adjust the touque (excuse spelling) settings in three levels??

cheers simon

[2BNVS]

if its the nismo gt lsd pro then they have the 3 torque settings, from what ive read the normal gt lsd is only available in 2 way

i could be very interested in a nismo 1.5way, its a good price nengun have them for 1400+ delivered...

whats the difference between the kaaz and nismo?

ben...

[Trust33]

Gts_evilution:Are the prices for the diffs any lower.I noticed that in the firts post your prices included shipping.

2BNVS:Are you using your stock standard lsd in the car atm?How is it performing?

[2BNVS]

Trust33: yer still usin stock diff, but i havent done many strong launches, normal driving and giving it some big hits close to redline is fine so far, but yeh i figured if the prices are good it would be a worthwhile upgrade for when i start draggin it more often...

ben...

[lrc135]

Can anyone say which is the stronger LSD.. Nismo or cusco?

[Kaido_RR]

Can anyone say which is the stronger LSD.. Nismo or cusco?

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i have been told by many people that kaaz and cusco are on the same lvl, i was under the impression that nismo was daily driver friendly but i could be wrong hehehe.

Trust33, the pricers where + shipping as i didnt know what the cost of shipping would be, but i see what i can do about getting them abit lower

Also im not sure which nismo lsd it is i will find out asap

cheers michael

[Trust33]

From nengun: R33 GTS-t s1

Nismo - GT LSD Pro

Designed as a multipurpose LSD for city driving, with increased power for track or autocross conditions. Constructed with four pinion gears for improved strength ( stock has two pinions ). Plate type 1.5-way LSD can be converted to 2-way LSD. 3 stage intial torque selective can be adjusted without disassembling the LSD.

AU $ 1,433.38 Delivered

Couldnt find any info on kazz.Perhaps ''Gts_evilution'' can provide us with some.

[AlexCim]

Find out if you can supply me an LSD for a WGNC34 1997 model stagea, looking a 1.5way.

Cheers

[Kaido_RR]

here you go from the kaaz website:

Features of Kaaz LSD

Kaaz LSD is the pioneer in the large sized clutch plate design (Figure 1). It's effectiveness and durability has been proven at the race scene throughout the world.

Figure 1.

Kaaz "Basic" and our new "Solid LSD" models react fast without fail and have a wide range of adjustments available to suit different drivng conditons. We use the largest friction plates size possible and also increase the number of plates to gain maximum performance. As a result, when compared with other LSD brands, you will find that a Kaaz LSD offers the following advantages:

The sensitive LSD will work even when the slightest torque is applied.

Increased ability to transfer power from the engine to the ground without loss.

The power acting on the plates is reduced so that abrasion on the plates are protected.

Increased number of friction plates greatly improves abrasion efficiency and heat capacitance of the plates. Longer plate wear life.

Not only the friction plates, but all parts of our LSD have been improved and made larger, so the overall strength of the main body is increased.

These merits gives the LSD near perfect efficiency, stable operation and long lasting outstanding control for you. For a better understanding, you can view the exploded view photo of the Kaaz LSD to see the overall product construction.

Smooth locking ability and stable drivability

Kaaz has noticed a great advantage in the use of cone springs to apply the initial torque to the clutch plates. For this reason, we still use the cone spring design like the day our first production run was made. This is a long proven design.

The cone spring is generally known to provide pressure when compressed. Normally the initial resistance is soft but as more pressure is applied the resistance increases quickly. Understanding this cone spring's character and pressure build up, our engineers have achieved a unique design to provide the smoothest engagement and locking ability into our LSD units.

In general, there is a misunderstanding that "High Initial Torque = More Effective LSD". Kaaz design is based on the LSD's overall locking characteristics and not to depend on the initial torque setting only. This makes for much smoother driver control. By controlling the LSD's effectiveness based on the accelerator input, the driver can always feel superb stability while driving. Kaaz LSD's most unique feature is the smoothness between the lock to free transfer due to it's superb design.

Material and Special Processing

A newly developed "RS" type clutch plates are utilized on all our new "Solid LSD" models. These new plates are uniquely designed to improve gripping while reducing wear. All of our pinon gears and side gears are made from top quality steel and special heat treatment to obtain maximum strength. The differential casings are all machined from top quality material to withstand the abuse of high horsepower input and high temperature inherent in performance driving. Precise fitment is assured with strict quality control management.

cheers michael

also will look into the 1.5way for you alexcim

[kudos.motorsports]

I know this is slightly off topic, but to anyone interested in this group buy but do not know whether to go a 1.5-way or 2-way. Without going into detail I personally recommend in a RWD situation go a 2-way while in a FWD go a 1.5-way. If you need details feel free to PM me. I cannot talk about comparing brand performance as I have only ever owned a Kaaz 2-way. I also must state that Kaaz and Cusco supply a majority of racing teams throughout Japan. But that said I cannot see TRD or Mugen using a Nismo diff. I think that’s enough said.

Great price & good luck with the group buy.

[Kaido_RR]

I know this is slightly off topic, but to anyone interested in this group buy but do not know whether to go a 1.5-way or 2-way. Without going into detail I personally recommend in a RWD situation go a 2-way while in a FWD go a 1.5-way. If you need details feel free to PM me. I cannot talk about comparing brand performance as I have only ever owned a Kaaz 2-way. I also must state that Kaaz and Cusco supply a majority of racing teams throughout Japan. But that said I cannot see TRD or Mugen using a Nismo diff. I think that’s enough said.

Great price & good luck with the group buy.

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thanks bigsully84 , i put nismo in as i knew a few people wouldnt have heard of kaaz, but i know they are on level with cusco but cheaper which is always good

cheers michael

[jnr32r]

Interested in the Kaaz 1.5 way. Are you able to get the Cusco ones and if so for how much roughly?

In regards to bigsully84's comments, i always thought 2 way is practically a locked diff, if this is so it wouldnt be very effective around the track...

[kudos.motorsports]

Guys a 1.5-way diff is still a 2-way diff. They still lock in both acceleration & deceleration hence the definition of a 2-way. A 1.5 way differs in the bias it has in both plans therefore enables different lock up rates during the two directional forces. The 1.5-way distributes positive lock stronger under acceleration than when decelerating. Therefore you under acceleration you there is no difference, so yes you will still get the clonking of the diff and your tyres chirping as you do a u-turn/tight turn.

If you are after a streetable diff stick with a 1-way setup, positive lock only. Only consider a 2-way (both 1.5way & 2-way) if you’re going to get a serious diff about track work. They are extremely predictable while both accelerating and decelerating then go a 2-way. I know some people may disagree but from my experience a 2-way diff is great for track, both drift & circuit. However some people will say a 1.5-way is more suited to a pure circuit car, it’s personal choice. That said if you have a FWD vehicle, or 4WD (GTR owners). You really don't want to have the front wheels fully locked with decelerating, it can get a little hairy trying to steer. In this application a 1.5-way is a very good compromise.

I hope that makes sense to most of you.

[Trust33]

It sounds like there is not that much diference.

I keep thinking that the difference in 1.5 and 2 way will come in rapid decelleration and the transition from that to acceleration.

Just because the friction plates of the kaaz diffs are bigger will it mean that the response of the lsd will be that much stronger or that much better or both.

Also will having a diff like kaaz do any more damage to the drive shafts than the other diffs?

[Kaido_RR]

ok guys give me a few days and i will make the group buy offical

and i can get cusco lsd but the discount is nothing and it wont be worth while for us to get them

[hungry6]

I would be interested in this deal, if it went ahead. So keep us posted.

[DR30RULES]

Are the Kaaz 1.5 available to fit an old long nose R200 diff (DR30, HR31)

Cheers

[s13rb26]

My couson is in japan right now.. and i can get these for less anyway without a group buy...................................................................