Pineapples

[R33S2]

I have them in my car and the improved handling is noticable, yet I meet other members and they haven't heard of them, its a bit hard trying to describe them because I really dont know what they do, although I know the difference of before/after.

BEFORE

When entering a corner I could feel the body move/angle over to the opposite of travel and then the shocks/springs dampen this effect.

AFTER

No body movement just springs/shocks doing their thing, still has body roll (until whiteliners are in)

So I assume that the pineapples fill or harden a soft (family car) spot in the setup, can somebody fill in the gaps for me?

[E_Lu-SHuN]

abit off topic but where can i get them from and for how much?

[R33BEN]

i have a set... $60 and there yours (i have no idea what they are worth... they are brand new)

Edited March 28, 2006 by R33BEN

[dangerous_daveo]

Did you put the 4 in or the 8 in. Are yours poly or aluminum?

I have 8x 4-5mm thick aluminium ones in, and I want to pull 4 out to see what it does. I dont think the 8 are really helping, just contributing to in cabin noise from the diff.

[Bl4cK32]

have a look at my group buy in my sig to see what pinapples do. Ask if theres any q's.

[shif_tea]

sell em here for $99 per set, Bee R brand

http://www.otomoto.com.au/beer.htm

from the website:

Adding these bushes to the rear suspension cradle in any RWD Nissan (and GT-Rs) from 1988 to 2002 reduces cradle movement dramatically to give a more consistent, predictable feel to the rear end, which is especially valuable for drifting. By altering the static angle of the cradle, pineapple bushes also promote rear suspension squat for greater rear grip.

[gt-t_r34]

have a look at the new issue of HPI (65) they put them on there r32 im just about to do the same i have the BeeR ones seem pretty good cheap too, just waiting for my subframe bushes might as well kill 2 birds with 1 stone!

[MerlinTheHapyPig]

I wonder if someone can answer a related question for me on this.

There are 3 setups you can use pineapples for, Drift, All round, Drag

I think sydneykid posted a "where to install them" for each setup, but my question is...

The pineapples i bought came with 4 small rings and 4 large rings, if i'm setting it up for drift, do i use 2 small ones and 2 big ones and just not use the other 4? or do I use all 8??

And to anyone who uses them for "drift", how much does it effect oversteer? I'm wondering if i should just use the 'all round' setup for them, becuase i'm not having any major understeer problems, and i dont want to make the car too spin-happy!

[Bl4cK32]

I wonder if someone can answer a related question for me on this.

There are 3 setups you can use pineapples for, Drift, All round, Drag

I think sydneykid posted a "where to install them" for each setup, but my question is...

The pineapples i bought came with 4 small rings and 4 large rings, if i'm setting it up for drift, do i use 2 small ones and 2 big ones and just not use the other 4? or do I use all 8??

And to anyone who uses them for "drift", how much does it effect oversteer? I'm wondering if i should just use the 'all round' setup for them, becuase i'm not having any major understeer problems, and i dont want to make the car too spin-happy!

Apparently the setup for drift makes it stupidly slippery. Best to set it up for allround if you just want the subframe firm, or put them in with the Noltec subframe bush kit to set the subframe for traction.

4 small ones for traction according to whiteline.

[R33S2]

I dont remember what was put in mine but they are Purple and on the bottom of the subframe so its all round performance, nolathane bushes went in as well.

So I can say to the peoples that they reduce the cradle movement and give a more presice feel to the rear end.

Thanks guys

[GTRsean]

Got mine from OTOMOTO, set of four, two large, two small. Comes with instructions. Cost me $99. I recommend 32" lockwire as the thinner stuff that comes with the kit is too thin.

[Sydneykid]

Be carefull, the article in HPI/ZOOM is missleading.

The Otomoto kit only has 4 bushes. 2 large (not split) and 2 small (split). When you use the 2 small bushes below the subframe you have to tie wire them otherwise they WILL fall out.

As you can see from the instructions (copy following) the Whiteline kit has 6 bushes, 2 large (not split), 2 small (split) and 2 small (not split). The 2 large bushes do not need to be split as they are mounted below the subframe. The 2 small split bushes are for fitting above the subframe without removing the subframe from the chassis. The 2 small non split bushes do not need to be split as they are mounted below the subframe. Since they are not split, they WILL NOT fall out, ie; they do not need lock wiring

For $5 extra I would buy the Whiteline kit, get the extra 2 bushes and avoid the need for lock wiring, which is not a permanent solution.

cheers

[gt-t_r34]

no offence Syd kid i have the otomotto kit and i have 2 large split and 2 small non split

[Thunderbolt]

Did you put the 4 in or the 8 in. Are yours poly or aluminum?

I have 8x 4-5mm thick aluminium ones in, and I want to pull 4 out to see what it does. I dont think the 8 are really helping, just contributing to in cabin noise from the diff.

I have 8 aluminium ones in (c type), and to tell you the truth - the noise does not bother me at all. You certainly notice it's there, but what's a little bit of noise on a sports car. If you don't like noise then you should get the polyurethane ones.

[Sydneykid]

no offence Syd kid i have the otomotto kit and i have 2 large split and 2 small non split

Interesting, the sample kit I have has 2 large split and 2 small split

If the 2 small are not split, how did you get them above the subframe?

Remove the subframe?

Or cut the bushes?

cheers D

[MerlinTheHapyPig]

ok, thanks for the replies, but i'm even confused now...

the kit I have (alloy pineapples) has 4 large split, and 4 small not-split... (the smaller ones are the thicker ones yeah?)

so go figure!!!

I might give them a try in "drift" mode and if it's too spin happy i'll change them to "all round"

also, which way around do they go?

[MerlinTheHapyPig]

http://www.driftshop.com.au/suspension_files/subframe.JPG

^ these are the ones I have....

is install different from the whiteline ones? I need to know the correct layout for "Drift" and "all round"........

Edited March 29, 2006 by MerlinTheHapyPig

[gt-t_r34]

the small's go at the back under the subframe the the big split one at the front ontop of it.

[Bl4cK32]

The whiteline ones are urethane, and are there to change alignment of the subframe.

The alloy ones u got there are designed to crush up the std bushes to stop flex in the subframe, without changing alignment of the subframe.

In your case i think the c ones go in the top, and the others go underneath, so its meant to fit without removing the subframe.

[Thunderbolt]

^^^ Yes that is correct. You can set them up for drift / grip, but if you use all 8 then it is for allround.