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Trackside performance spent ages with an E-manage and Profec E-01 on my car, trying to tune it and get it right, but we ended up just getting rid of it becuase the instructions are crap and anything else is in Japanese. We found the system was full of features but it was useless and didn't work. Every other shop we asked for help either haven't even used one before or have found the same problems and have ditched it as well. If you need more info on it, give Alan at Trackside performance a ring on (07)32057707 and tell him Sean sent ya, he should help you out with some info on the E-manage.

WTF? They're easy to tune, I did the tune on my last car an R34 n/a with a turbo bolted on.

Provided you have the map sensor you can't go wrong, they work extremely well.

We had the E-manage and the profec E-01 with the afm and injector loom installed, and we still could not get it to fucntion at all and this was on a R33 N/A with a complete engine rebuild. The boost controller didn't work, the in built fuel cut defender didn't work and the turning capabilities, using the Greddy support tool from what we could see, were very limited when compared to a Wolf 3D or Power FC. Not only were we having these problems but everyone else we rang about it were in the same boat as us. If you have some pointers you could give us about that system I'm sure Trackside Performance and another three tuning shops would love to hear from you...

We had the E-manage and the profec E-01 with the afm and injector loom installed, and we still could not get it to fucntion at all and this was on a R33 N/A with a complete engine rebuild. The boost controller didn't work, the in built fuel cut defender didn't work and the turning capabilities, using the Greddy support tool from what we could see, were very limited when compared to a Wolf 3D or Power FC. Not only were we having these problems but everyone else we rang about it were in the same boat as us. If you have some pointers you could give us about that system I'm sure Trackside Performance and another three tuning shops would love to hear from you...

np, I didn't realise there were that many people having issues with them...I basically learnt the hard way having a crash course learing how the thing worked when my car had the turbo conversion. It's a shame I still don't have it as I could have brought it down for all to see. I've never used the E-01 just the laptop interface, even with that the car just fired up first time and all adjustments through the software worked fine, ignition advancing/retarding and fuel adjustment, scaling to the boost map and the fuel cut defender was a matter of setting the max AFM voltage to just bellow the cut-out and fixing it there.

Power FC is a full replacement so sort of in a different category to a piggyback

Let me know the exact details of what issues you have and maybe I can help you guys out. The two I've seen with issues have been the wrong firmware update and a 100% faulty unit.

Yeah, we must have had ones of those faulty ones then cause we did all of that and stuffed around with different afms for ages and we still couldn't gt it to work, it wouldn't even hold boost, the turbo would boost right by the set limit like it wasn't even there....

We just got sick of the whole system so we replaced it with a stand alone Wolf3D EMS.

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