I have a few questions ..

[Mick]

1. Im looking at a new ecu, I have been leaning towards the LINK because this will eliminate the need for the afm, plus it fits in the original ecu case. Is this a good move ? also does the apexi pfc also eliminate need for a afm ?

2. I got my car dyno'd, my car is suposed to be 180kw@6400rpm stock standard, now when i got it dyno'd they got it to peak at 152kw at 104kph. Now im wondering if this is because Its an auto and the overdrive was off. It only dawned on me on the way home that it should have been dyno'd with te overdrive on ...

[whistla]

1) i would like to know this cos im in the same situation

2) the quoted power (from manufacturer) would be the peak power your car does at the flywheel, manufacturers dont quote power figuers at the wheel, so yours is fine due to power train loss.

Whether u have a manual or auto, dyno runs shouldnt really matter cos when u put your foot down, it change gears once its peaked its rev range. Wouldnt have made a difference

[Silver-Arrowz]

The power fc needs air flow meters I think. From all cars I've seen with power FC's, they run AFM anyway.

Why don't you want to run AFM's anyway? I thought that if your chasing massive HP, go MAP sensors. But if your not going to go all crazy with HP, then stick with AFM's.

[Mick]

AFM are a major restriction on the skyline. Better to have a fully programable ecu to sense and map everything. When i go te link its goodbye to the safc and all the other piggybacks that i would have needed in the future.

[Dr_Drift]

I've done a fiar bit of research, and the Link seems to have an endless list of software upgrades.

Getting rid of the AFM is a huge benefit.

Interested to hear your opinion if you do go Link.

[meggala]

mick if your in oz dont go the link umless you have a tuner who knows it. consider autronic, haltech, or even microtech. the motoec is dear but also very good. the 180 rw@ 6400 in at the fly wheel allow 20% od for drive line loss the 152 is fine.

meggala

[Guest SadisticRage]

Ive noticed that automatics tend to be ripped off on the dyno as well.

Ive seen several cars come away with 30kw less than their manual counterparts yet in real terms (on the road or track) they would run away and leave the manuals wondering what hit them.

As far as ECU, I have a link and am happy with it. Meggala is right though....it is all in the tuner. A good tuner will make a Link equipped Skyline bloody awesome, a not so good tuner will make Link look very bad.

[Dr_Drift]

SadisticRage, who tuned your?

Anyone else recommend a tuner in melbourne who is familiar with link, and knows how to tune?

[Guest SadisticRage]

Mine was tuned in New Zealand by Rob Bryan of WAR Motorsports in Hamilton with results I was more than happy with.

I do notice that the car has its "on" days and "off" days but I suspect this may have more to do with a high state of tune than it does with Link.

It could always be an idea to fire an email at Link Electrosytems in Christchurch and ask them who they recommend as a good installed/tuner in your area. I've always found they listen to requirements before handing out names so that they send you to someone best equipped and skilled to do your job.

[Mick]

The guy at JPC in Thomastown recommended I go for the Link rather than the Apexi PFC, he said he can tune the PFC's not a problem and hes done lots of them, but he still recommends the link as it is a board replacement so it looks totaly stock still (unless someone notices that u dont have an AFM anymore), u can tune it on a laptop/PC or there is a Handset for it also. He said tis is te main ecu that he installs and tunes there (mostly VL turbo's i would think thoe). But Autospeed had quite a few writeups on cqars hes done and totaly shocked people...

So maybe ask around if and see if anyone round here has had a link installed by them ..

He said he can supply and fit aftermarket turbo's, exhausts, intakes, suspension etc etc ...

[meggala]

Mick I'm not one for plugging people but I suggest you call the guys from ice performance. they can tune the power fc and autronic ecu and have a good track record on skyline .

the power fc has quite a few more load points than the link and the autronic can run even more.

ask any of the guys at the dyno day and you will hear what they were like. the power fc is a plug in replacement and looks exactly like the factory ecu. Its your choice they are also mad skyline enthusiasts

cheers

meggala

http://www.iceperformance.com.au

[Mick]

Yer thanks for the info meggala. Thats where I wanted to go originaly, i rang him twice and was goin to try get it up there on a sat mornin, but problem being if i have 2 be there by 9am i would have to leave here probably about 6:30, then he said it will take about half a day bec he doesnt have a dyno there, he had 2 go across town or something... So meanwhilei have to wait round half a day .. Which wouldnt bother me so much actualy if i was watchin him service and dyno it .. but i know that alot of mechanics dont like customers standin round watchin them .. not sure bout gerald thoe..

I still wouldnt mind gettin it up to him thoe, since its already had its service, its just basicly a dyno run then ...

Its a long way to drive fom here, but i hear its worth it ..