Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 58
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

yes im curious as to what record it actually got, im not doubting that it did, just dont know which one. the worlds most powerful street car belongs to Rod Hadfiled does it not? 3000HP street registered from his 27 odd litre (supercharged from meory) V12... obviously economy wasnt an issue... :dry:

I think the record is supposed to be for the most powerful small-block engine. I agree with the previous comments, there is no way this thing is going to be doing laps of a track or getting street registered.

The record for the highest HP street car is held by Brett Waine who made 1470.8rwhp at Summernats 17 in RAPID8. The car was street registered, and used pump fuel.

Rod Hadfields "Final Attack" Chev with the 27litre V12 is street registered, but it does not have full rego, it is limited.

After doing some reading, I reckon that this figure might be a little inflated due to the intake temp figure. Increasing the intake temp figure is about the most common way of fudging a dyno result. Dyno Dynamics reckons that the sensor failed, and that it would not have any impact on the power figure, while some other people have said that it could have up to 30% correction ratio applied.....

Anyway, it is still tough, and it still makes a heap of horsepower, even if the 30% ratio is applied.

Just further to everything else, one of the organisers of the show has made a comment in regards to this on another forum, here is a quote from that post:

"yes we have an Inlet Temp issue, however we are still unsure as to the variation factor until the log file/software version is inspected by Dyno Dynamics, the sensor was reading 230, not 270 so some further clarification is required, yes Eddy will back up any claims and YES Eddy tapped Aaron off the last run before peak power was made as the screen/dyno issue stopped the car displaying any more power - I have watched the car on more dyno runs than I can remember, including all our A.M.E. shows and at Summernats and have NEVER know the car to sound as strong or smooth. - All credit to Eddy and Dyno Dynamics and everyone with an interest in the sport for the amazing results that continue to please crowds around Australia."

So it seems there was a problem with the Inlet Temp, but it's affect is unknown, however, the power run was cut short due to the computer being unable to display any more power, so there is more power left in this thing.

I agree, tune it for street fuel, and set the correct inlet temp, and it probably won't be anywhere near as high. However, I think that there is alot more left in this engine, despite the fact that the figures may be inflated, the power run was cut short. I reckon a genuine 1500hp is likely once everything is sorted, although, everyone has said that Eddy will back up this claim, so maybe Eddy knows that this thing has 2000hp in it. Holden 8s weren't designed to do that, but it goes to show what the dinosaur pushrod V8 can do when stretched to the limit.

It has been confirmed that the car was untuned, and that the dyno was maxed out, so the power run was cut short. Apparently, Eddy and Dyno Dynamics are keen to back up this figure using a better dyno and the correct IT figure. Should be interesting. 39psi isn't really that much when you are talking 1895hp.

I agree, Ferraris aren't really known for their driveablility, but I find it pretty hard to believe that a Clubsport which will do 5th gear burnouts with traction control on could be more streetable than an F355.

I don't think its all that laggy compared to say a RB25 running a gt3040 .82.

The GT3040 .82 gets going at say 4000rpm.

At 4000rpm the 383 twin turbo is making ~260rwhp (194rwkw). So it would still haul arse putting around in traffic, one would have to be carefull not to take it another 500-1000rpm higher thats all. :D

As the old saying goes... There's no replacement for displacement. :D

LOL at the 230degree intake temp.

Dyno Dynamics has released their findings. The figure was inflated due to the temp sensor failing and going into "open circuit". They have recalculated the figures based on a 60 degree IT, which came to 1434.6, but still allows for 10% correction. With no correction value for IT, makes the maximum power 1304.2. Still not bad for a car that is not tuned, and the run was cut short. There will be more from this thing yet.

Awesome car - but hardly a world record when the dyno is in question.

Get the dyno sorted and redo it - dont go bragging until then.

Here is a link from Antilag inregard to this issue --> http://www.antilag.com/forums/showthread.p...9919&page=1

Dyno Dynamics has released their findings. The figure was inflated due to the temp sensor failing and going into "open circuit". They have recalculated the figures based on a 60 degree IT, which came to 1434.6, but still allows for 10% correction. With no correction value for IT, makes the maximum power 1304.2. Still not bad for a car that is not tuned, and the run was cut short. There will be more from this thing yet.
it was confirned last night that this had no affect on the figres by Mr Dyno Dynamics, Peter Humphrys so b4 you start shootin ya mouths off get ya facts STRAIGHT

Eddy will back up his numbers as he always does time and time again he does'nt need to defend himself he is as has been NO1 for years and proved this in every state!!!!

I hope he does roll this into summernats would be entertaining 2 say the least

good day

I love this part

I told you so.

Dont have a go at me about something i actually know a little bit about dude.

Get YOUR facts straight first i think rather than dribbling out what others feed you and then trying to defend it all :P

The facts were straight at the time. DD said that the figure would not be affected, so it was left as that until today. I also said, I am no expert, I was relaying information from someone who was there as a competitor. I also mentioned that I thought that the figure was suss as well. But i do believe that this thing will make more HP than the "corrected" figure that DD calculated. And for the record, I was not trying to "defend" anyone or anything, and I didn't "have a go" at anyone.

Don't shoot the messenger mate.

Edited by Quinny

Dont be a puppet :P

You told me to get my facts straight.

They were. Yours werent.

I dont care if your mothers aunty's dog told you. Doesnt mean they are right. If you wanna regurgitate something someone fed you then be prepared to wear it.

The quote that said "get your facts straight" was quoted by me from the user of another forum who was a competitor at that show. That quote was later retracted by that person after trying it on his own 700hp VL.

I provided that quote after you asked the same question I did regarding the inlet temp figure. I was simply giving you the information that I was provided with, I never said it was gospel, I never said you were wrong.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • For once a good news  It needed to be adjusted by that one nut and it is ok  At least something was easy But thank you very much for help. But a small issue is now(gearbox) that when the car is stationary you can hear "clinking" from gearbox so some of the bearing is 100% not that happy... It goes away once you push clutch so it is 100% gearbox. Just if you know...what that bearing could be? It sounding like "spun bearing" but it is louder.
    • Yeah, that's fine**. But the numbers you came up with are just wrong. Try it for yourself. Put in any voltage from the possible range and see what result you get. You get nonsense. ** When I say "fine", I mean, it's still shit. The very simple linear formula (slope & intercept) is shit for a sensor with a non-linear response. This is the curve, from your data above. Look at the CURVE! It's only really linear between about 30 and 90 °C. And if you used only that range to define a curve, it would be great. But you would go more and more wrong as you went to higher temps. And that is why the slope & intercept found when you use 50 and 150 as the end points is so bad halfway between those points. The real curve is a long way below the linear curve which just zips straight between the end points, like this one. You could probably use the same slope and a lower intercept, to move that straight line down, and spread the error out. But you would 5-10°C off in a lot of places. You'd need to say what temperature range you really wanted to be most right - say, 100 to 130, and plop the line closest to teh real curve in that region, which would make it quite wrong down at the lower temperatures. Let me just say that HPTuners are not being realistic in only allowing for a simple linear curve. 
    • I feel I should re-iterate. The above picture is the only option available in the software and the blurb from HP Tuners I quoted earlier is the only way to add data to it and that's the description they offer as to how to figure it out. The only fields available is the blank box after (Input/ ) and the box right before = Output. Those are the only numbers that can be entered.
    • No, your formula is arse backwards. Mine is totally different to yours, and is the one I said was bang on at 50 and 150. I'll put your data into Excel (actually it already is, chart it and fit a linear fit to it, aiming to make it evenly wrong across the whole span. But not now. Other things to do first.
    • God damnit. The only option I actually have in the software is the one that is screenshotted. I am glad that I at least got it right... for those two points. Would it actually change anything if I chose/used 80C and 120C as the two points instead? My brain wants to imagine the formula put into HPtuners would be the same equation, otherwise none of this makes sense to me, unless: 1) The formula you put into VCM Scanner/HPTuners is always linear 2) The two points/input pairs are only arbitrary to choose (as the documentation implies) IF the actual scaling of the sensor is linear. then 3) If the scaling is not linear, the two points you choose matter a great deal, because the formula will draw a line between those two points only.
×
×
  • Create New...